Uggla to Braves

[Heathbar012]

Interesting...

Braves Acquire Dan Uggla: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

A good team gets better.

 

[SFGRTB]

I hate to say it like this because I know that we know nothing about what goes on, but we could've made this trade.

I don't really like this deal for the Fish, but it seems like they are commited to having dominant pitching and their formula now wasn't working.

So I guess it's not a bad deal for them, but I think they could've done better. But again, we have no idea.

 

[TidrowThePitchingMaster]

I hate to say it like this because I know that we know nothing about what goes on, but we could've made this trade.

I don't really like this deal for the Fish, but it seems like they are commited to having dominant pitching and their formula now wasn't working.

So I guess it's not a bad deal for them, but I think they could've done better. But again, we have no idea.

I don't think we would be able to afford Uggla's arbitration salary he's going to receive. Plus, we already are paying Franchez 6 mil, and Uggla would be a nightmare at 3rd base.

 

[SFGRTB]

I don't think we would be able to afford Uggla's arbitration salary he's going to receive. Plus, we already are paying Franchez 6 mil, and Uggla would be a nightmare at 3rd base.

I see your point, I just really like Uggla for some reason. I'm glad we can move on though and stop hearing all the 'Sanchez for Uggla?' trade talk.

 

[ugafan6612]

I loved this move. LOTS of power!! I will miss Infante though. That guys the best utility player in the MLB

 

[vtpoop]

As a Braves fan, I love this move, too. We certainly need more power. I don't like losing Infante, either. He was a huge spark for us last year. Damn, I wish TBS still broadcasted the Braves full-time.

 

[xxERICSMITHXX]

This is a terrible trade for the Marlins, I have no idea why they made it. The Braves got a steal.

The Marlins had to get back a better package that they could cheaply control for a number of years. Dunn is a nice arm, but why would they want Infante? He is gone after this year.

 

[ColinCoby]

The Braves got a steal...but keep in mind that Uggla rejected a 4-year, $48 million contract offer. Not sure if he's worth more than 12 million a year.

 

[msgkings322]

So much for not trading in your division.

That must have been the best they could get for him...

 

[TKellion]

Will you guys still call it a steal for the Braves if Uggla leaves in FA after next season.They made this trade with no knowledge if he would sign an extension and Uggla wants to get PAID.I say until Uggla resigns with Atl then the Marlins did alright in this trade since they wouldnt pay 1 of their stars.

 

[BigGiantsFan]

Tsuyoshi Nishioka

Anyone know about this guy? Apparently he's the first Japanese player to have 200 hits in a season since Ichiro. He's a shortstop and MLB teams have 4 days to bid on his rights. Anyone think the Giants will be interested?

 

[msgkings322]

Will you guys still call it a steal for the Braves if Uggla leaves in FA after next season.They made this trade with no knowledge if he would sign an extension and Uggla wants to get PAID.I say until Uggla resigns with Atl then the Marlins did alright in this trade since they wouldnt pay 1 of their stars.

After 2011 Chipper Jones is off the books and they can use that $ to sign Uggla.

Braves are going to be good next year.

 

[filosofy29]

I like this trade for the Braves. Like Tidrow said though, I don't know if Uggla would be a good fit here until after next season.

 

[I cAnT wAtCh]

Uggla is a grade A asshole. He asked for 71 million just because he wanted more than Hanley to shove it in his face. It became way too obvious, imo.

In terms of the return itself, it's not very good. I like Dunn, but don't understand the Infante part (even though he'll start for us).

At least the bright side is that we'll no longer have a horrible bullpen. They've already gotten Richardson (not sure about him...but whatever, Andrew Miller sucks), Webb & Mujica (for Maybin), and now Dunn. I like it, and they're not done.

This is sort of a big picture type of deal. Getting rid of Uggla's salary will give the team flexibility to spend on areas of need (they already got a catcher in John Buck, and they want another SP, according to rumors). Either way, the money will be spent.

By the way, why is the Giants board like the main board for baseball on this site? lol. We gave you guys Cody Ross, so I'm assuming I'm allowed to join the chatter party.

 

[SFAnthem]

Uggla is a grade A asshole. He asked for 71 million just because he wanted more than Hanley to shove it in his face. It became way too obvious, imo.

In terms of the return itself, it's not very good. I like Dunn, but don't understand the Infante part (even though he'll start for us).

At least the bright side is that we'll no longer have a horrible bullpen. They've already gotten Richardson (not sure about him...but whatever, Andrew Miller sucks), Webb & Mujica (for Maybin), and now Dunn. I like it, and they're not done.

This is sort of a big picture type of deal. Getting rid of Uggla's salary will give the team flexibility to spend on areas of need (they already got a catcher in John Buck, and they want another SP, according to rumors). Either way, the money will be spent.

By the way, why is the Giants board like the main board for baseball on this site? lol. We gave you guys Cody Ross, so I'm assuming I'm allowed to join the chatter party.

More baseball minds, the better. I like having opposing opinions from fans of other teams in the league to discuss topics.

Uggla was another salary slash..? When are you guys getting the new ballpark? *We are enemies on the field because of 97 and 03 but I respect the talent that the Marlins always seem to bring up

 

[filosofy29]

By the way, why is the Giants board like the main board for baseball on this site? lol. We gave you guys Cody Ross, so I'm assuming I'm allowed to join the chatter party.

More than welcome ICW. We're all a bunch of transplants from the ESPN Giants board.....or most of us at least. Anyway, welcome aboard man, see you on the hockey board too

 

[SFAnthem]

More than welcome ICW. We're all a bunch of transplants from the ESPN Giants board.....or most of us at least. Anyway, welcome aboard man, see you on the hockey board too

But only after he pays dues!

 

[I cAnT wAtCh]

More baseball minds, the better. I like having opposing opinions from fans of other teams in the league to discuss topics.

Uggla was another salary slash..? When are you guys getting the new ballpark? *We are enemies on the field because of 97 and 03 but I respect the talent that the Marlins always seem to bring up

Nah, the Marlins wanted Uggla back. They offered up to 4 years/48 million. Uggla insisted on 5 years/71 million, which he's totally not worth. The 71 million # is either him being a douche, or just pure coincidence. Hanley's making 70 million over 6 years, and he and Hanley have had an off-field issue in the past, which was blown up by the media.

Uggla wasn't a "salary slash," though. They wanted to sign him; they just felt he wasn't nearly worth what he was asking for, which is fair. Dan Uggla in 5 years is a DH. He'll probably be a DH sooner than that. He's been one of the worst defensive 2B over the years; it just so happens he overcomes it with his offense.

The Marlins, before the offseason began, said they wanted to 1) improve the bullpen (they still say they're not done with that, despite all the moves), and 2) improve team defense. In that sense, this trade accomplishes that short-term, and Dunn has the potential/stuff to close if he lowers his walk totals. Worst case scenario with Dunn is pretty much a dominant lefty specialist, which is why I like him.

A Dunn type arm does not surprise me. We needed lefties with upside. I post on marlinsbaseball.com, for those who want to check it out, and pretending to be a GM I was laughed at for saying that a Dan Runzler type arm is what we should expect for Uggla. Imo, Runzler>Dunn because he's proven he can get righties out too, as opposed to Dunn who's just a lefty specialist for now. Either way, it doesn't surprise me to get that type of lefty arm in return.

The trade fucked up with Infante. Not that Infante is "bad;" just that utility players don't belong in these types of deals because they're so replaceable, imo. Hopefully he can at least hit like he did in 2010 (which I doubt). The Marlins actually wanted Prado, but the Braves said no to that so they settled for Infante, instead. That's the way it worked out, according to rumors.

Really though, for those who read mlbtraderumors, the Blue Jays offer came out, and their offer for Uggla kinda sucked. None of the guys were ML proven; a couple of the guys in their Uggla offer they used today to acquire Rajai Davis, which proves Uggla's value wasn't as high as most thought (probably because of his contract).

 

[SFAnthem]

All I know from NL East guys like Dunn and Uggla is from when they play the Giants. Freaking Uggla always seems to go homer happy against the Giants and I was impressed with Dunn (all the Braves bullpen actually).

10 years ago, I would say it was a definite win for the Braves. Pitching is becoming the more valuable commodity and a jack of all trades guy like Infante becomes important in the NL late inning double switch situations.

Digging a little deeper, I think the trade evens out a bit more, especially if you have plans for the payroll elsewhere. Like I said, I'm just a casual observer of the NL East - all I know is that the Marlins always seem to play the Giants tough.

 

[SFAnthem]

just reading up a bit more on sun life stadium - bermuda triangle... maybe they project the stadium to nullify Uggla's power a bit?