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Today's announcement that RGIII will start against the Vikings did NOT come from the HC or team sources. Instead it comes from a tweet originated by RGIII himself. That on its' own merit is troubling, as it appears to be an end run against what some assume is the chain of command in this organization. If true (tweet by himself) it undermines the authority of the HC and without repercussions re-establishes #10 as having the backing of higher ups. The remedy is as obvious as could be in this matter. The HC should immediately bench RGIII for this game or begin to look for employment elsewhere.
 

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Way to dramatic. Who gives a shit how the news comes out as long as he's ready to play is all I care about.
 

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Today's announcement that RGIII will start against the Vikings did NOT come from the HC or team sources. Instead it comes from a tweet originated by RGIII himself. That on its' own merit is troubling, as it appears to be an end run against what some assume is the chain of command in this organization. If true (tweet by himself) it undermines the authority of the HC and without repercussions re-establishes #10 as having the backing of higher ups. The remedy is as obvious as could be in this matter. The HC should immediately bench RGIII for this game or begin to look for employment elsewhere.


You got proof? Or, is it just a deadspin, tmz etc rumor?
 

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Way to dramatic. Who gives a shit how the news comes out as long as he's ready to play is all I care about.

Dramatic??? possibly.....but for those of us who are well aware that winning programs top to bottom begins and ends with organizational focus and unity. If you don't give a shit about winning that's on you!!
 

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Dramatic??? possibly.....but for those of us who are well aware that winning programs top to bottom begins and ends with organizational focus and unity. If you don't give a shit about winning that's on you!!

Dude I don't care if he held a press conference to announce it as long as he's playing is all I care about. If you think McCoy gives me a better shot that's your opinion. Listen to the talking heads talking shit, I couldn't care less what the "experts" think
 

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I was looking for the said "tweet originated by RG3"...but, spin it bro
 

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Dude I don't care if he held a press conference to announce it as long as he's playing is all I care about. If you think McCoy gives me a better shot that's your opinion. Listen to the talking heads talking shit, I couldn't care less what the "experts" think[/QUOTE

Sounds like the Nero complex to me, who fiddled while Rome burned. For all of you who say that all you care about is who's (in particular if he's) playing then you get the losing team that you deserve.
 

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I was looking for the said "tweet originated by RG3"...but, spin it bro

Did you miss the part of my original post related to "If true?"

However, there are multiple reports to the contrary coming from the HC himself, which should be troubling.
 

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please no more CSI , and again if Rg3 is putting the pressure on to start and he isnt ready the gruden needs to show the sack that Shanny didnt and bench him till he is ready

and if rg3 is putting pressure on the staff then , so what ? any qb would do that just look at romo
 

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Diane Rusini from channel 4 was the one who reported Griffin would start. She said "multiple sources told her."

Too funny dad, it is Shanahan's fault and if that isn't true Griffin is just doing what he is supposed to be doing.

Anyhow I don't think Griffin put this info out.
 

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Dude I don't care if he held a press conference to announce it as long as he's playing is all I care about. If you think McCoy gives me a better shot that's your opinion. Listen to the talking heads talking shit, I couldn't care less what the "experts" think[/QUOTE

Sounds like the Nero complex to me, who fiddled while Rome burned. For all of you who say that all you care about is who's (in particular if he's) playing then you get the losing team that you deserve.[/QUOTE

If you think Colt gives them a better chance than Griffin on Sunday that's fine but don't go around looking for something to bitch about like a tweet. A tweet? Players are using HGH, beating girlfriends and this guy gets ripped for working his ass off to come back early and you are fixated on a tweet? Not buying what your selling.:scratch:
 

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please no more CSI , and again if Rg3 is putting the pressure on to start and he isnt ready the gruden needs to show the sack that Shanny didnt and bench him till he is ready

and if rg3 is putting pressure on the staff then , so what ? any qb would do that just look at romo

Agree. Comments coming from the same guy who wants to dump Allen right now when there is no definitive proof that he is doing that poorly.

Great dude - let's go in your direction - bench RG3 for a while, fire Gruden & Allen & tear up the roster. Those ideas are so non-Snyder like - please.
 

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please no more CSI , and again if Rg3 is putting the pressure on to start and he isnt ready the gruden needs to show the sack that Shanny didnt and bench him till he is ready

and if rg3 is putting pressure on the staff then , so what ? any qb would do that just look at romo

Where's the CSI? The sources stating that RGIII will be starting on Sunday are coming from everywhere EXCEPT where it's supposed to come from......GRUDEN!!! It puts Gruden in a bad position as he continues to say that the rest of the week of practice coupled with a clearance by team doctors will determine IF he plays or not. If anyone can not see that by doing things this way it makes the HC look foolish, then there's no way to get that point into your consciousness.

Dad I will agree with you on the point that Gruden needs to show some sack......even if it means keeping a fully prepared and healthy RGIII on the bench for going behind his back and as you've said "putting (unnecessary.... my term) pressure on the coaches."
 

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Dude I don't care if he held a press conference to announce it as long as he's playing is all I care about. If you think McCoy gives me a better shot that's your opinion. Listen to the talking heads talking shit, I couldn't care less what the "experts" think[/QUOTE

Sounds like the Nero complex to me, who fiddled while Rome burned. For all of you who say that all you care about is who's (in particular if he's) playing then you get the losing team that you deserve.[/QUOTE

If you think Colt gives them a better chance than Griffin on Sunday that's fine but don't go around looking for something to bitch about like a tweet. A tweet? Players are using HGH, beating girlfriends and this guy gets ripped for working his ass off to come back early and you are fixated on a tweet? Not buying what your selling.:scratch:

Yep - for better or worse I want a QB who wants to return & play. I don't want a player who would basically say "I feel good but you what - just keep me on the bench for the whole year". Sounds like we have Bananaman Part 2 on this board.
 

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all i am saying is that this is a molehill being made a mountain of

the accepted word by some is Rg3 forced the weak kneed shanahan into making a choice shanahan KNEW was wrong

and now the theory is being applied to gruden

and i am only sticking to the principle i have espoused . its the coaches choice to play the guys he thinks he can win with and if he doesnt have the sack to make the hard right over the easy wrong then he shouldnt be HC whether he is shanny ,gruden , lombardi , belicheck etc

if Rg3 is indeed applying pressure then so be it . i expect my starting qb to push the issue . but when it falls apart dont point the finger at the staff like he allegedly did last time in some peoples eyes
 

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Where's the CSI? The sources stating that RGIII will be starting on Sunday are coming from everywhere EXCEPT where it's supposed to come from......GRUDEN!!! It puts Gruden in a bad position as he continues to say that the rest of the week of practice coupled with a clearance by team doctors will determine IF he plays or not. If anyone can not see that by doing things this way it makes the HC look foolish, then there's no way to get that point into your consciousness.

Dad I will agree with you on the point that Gruden needs to show some sack......even if it means keeping a fully prepared and healthy RGIII on the bench for going behind his back and as you've said "putting (unnecessary.... my term) pressure on the coaches."

How do you know it is not coming from Gruden? Perhaps it indirectly came from him via another player, coach or media source & was subsequently leaked. Welcome to 2014.
 

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Dude I don't care if he held a press conference to announce it as long as he's playing is all I care about. If you think McCoy gives me a better shot that's your opinion. Listen to the talking heads talking shit, I couldn't care less what the "experts" think[/QUOTE

Sounds like the Nero complex to me, who fiddled while Rome burned. For all of you who say that all you care about is who's (in particular if he's) playing then you get the losing team that you deserve.[/QUOTE

If you think Colt gives them a better chance than Griffin on Sunday that's fine but don't go around looking for something to bitch about like a tweet. A tweet? Players are using HGH, beating girlfriends and this guy gets ripped for working his ass off to come back early and you are fixated on a tweet? Not buying what your selling.:scratch:

Not asking you to buy anything (literally nor figuratively) besides if you cannot understand what you're reading, you can't afford it anyway!! I've already stated why it's a terrible idea to put your head coach in an untenable position. All of those other things that you've stated about the goings on in the NFL are true, is it not equally true that this particular organization suffers from internal problems? Guess three wins out of eight is reason enough to forgo rational thought.............Sad!!!
 

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Not asking you to buy anything (literally nor figuratively) besides if you cannot understand what you're reading, you can't afford it anyway!! I've already stated why it's a terrible idea to put your head coach in an untenable position. All of those other things that you've stated about the goings on in the NFL are true, is it not equally true that this particular organization suffers from internal problems? Guess three wins out of eight is reason enough to forgo rational thought.............Sad!!!

The only one with your line of thinking is you. Conspiracy theorist unite:bawling:
 

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How do you know it is not coming from Gruden? Perhaps it indirectly came from him via another player, coach or media source & was subsequently leaked. Welcome to 2014.

OK guys, keep attacking the messenger, but if you're going to do it at least come with something that makes sense.

To your point, even if it was a communication DIRECTLY from the HC, leaked via another player, coach or (social) media source it did not come directly from the HC as it should have. He has subsequently continued to stick with his original position, clearly not aware that those sources have betrayed a confidence. I guarantee you that if Gruden wanted it known he would have said so in his presser instead of what he ACTUALLY said.
 
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