Trivia with Player Game Finder

[MHSL82]

Not as impressive, but there was a 10 for 10 for Stockton the 13 for 17 Malone game.

 

[MHSL82]

I just checked, there aren’t any 9 for 9 games for both on the same night. That was easy to check because I just ordered the games by number of free-throw attempts and then just looked if there are any other on the same dates. Nothing under nine for both would be more than or equal to 18.

 

[MHSL82]

http://bkref.com/tiny/DO6Bz

 

[nuraman00]

There was a game where Malone was 10 for 10 in Stockton was 9 for 10. There was a 12 or 12 for Malone and 10 for 12 for Stockton game.

Darn it! Those could have been the best, for them, in Jazz history.

 

[nuraman00]

The record is 23 for 23 in the league. For the time frame of Stockton and Malone.

Do you mean by an individual? If so, I believe Pierce did it in the playoffs:

Make sure when you're using the trivia game finder, you do game type "either" to include both regular season and playoffs.

Nevermind, it was 21-21:

Boston Celtics at Indiana Pacers Box Score, April 19, 2003 | Basketball-Reference.com

 

[nuraman00]

But I have to go do something.

I will wait here by the keyboard, hoping you tell what that "something" is.

Or I can let my imagination guess.

Just kidding.

 

[nuraman00]

http://bkref.com/tiny/DO6Bz

I changed your filter to include the playoffs, and I found an 18-18 one.

Utah Jazz at Los Angeles Lakers Box Score, May 10, 1997 | Basketball-Reference.com

Darn it Stockton. You went 0 - 1!

 

[MHSL82]

I changed your filter to include the playoffs, and I found an 18-18 one.

Utah Jazz at Los Angeles Lakers Box Score, May 10, 1997 | Basketball-Reference.com

Darn it Stockton. You went 0 - 1!

I thought the default was to show playoffs. But I did check the playoffs when looking at Malone’s profile and saw that game. I wanted to see what the most was for Malone. Regular season was 17 for 17.

 

[nuraman00]

I thought the default was to show playoffs. But I did check the playoffs when looking at Malone’s profile and saw that game. I wanted to see what the most was for Malone. Regular season was 17 for 17.

Default for queries is regular season only.

I always have to go to the option to select "either", because most of the time, I want combined results, from both the regular season and the playoffs.

 

[MHSL82]

I changed your filter to include the playoffs, and I found an 18-18 one.

Utah Jazz at Los Angeles Lakers Box Score, May 10, 1997 | Basketball-Reference.com

Darn it Stockton. You went 0 - 1!

I think the strongest criticism/joke we have here is calling Malone “always” second. But I wonder between your surprise on Stockton’s free throws and things like this whether Stockton gets more in frequency?

 

[nuraman00]

I think the strongest criticism/joke we have here is calling Malone “always” second. But I wonder between your surprise on Stockton’s free throws and things like this whether Stockton gets more in frequency?

That is your joke. I've never agreed with it.

Clintonite33 also shared your joke. When he met Eaton a few years ago, he said:

Clintonite33: "Lurch, I'm excited to meet you. You're my 2nd favorite player."

Eaton / Lurch: "Oh Yeah? Who is first?"

Clintonite33: "Don't tell Karl he's 3rd."

grimm010 is the only person I've seen who said Karl was his favorite.

It disappointed me that during Malone's MVP seasons, I heard chatters that he wasn't even the MVP on his own team, and that Stockton was the real MVP. I don't know how I heard this, since I didn't hear local radio. Maybe some people commented on it during the mail bag portion of NBA Inside Stuff? Somehow, I picked up on that chatter, though.

I was also disappointed that a few years ago, when David Lee was named to the All-Star team, and Steph Curry wasn't, Warriors radio broadcasters were saying that Curry was the real All-Star, because he scored 53 at Madison Square Garden.

I definitely remember that on the ESPN boards, when Boozer was named to the All-Star, and Deron Williams wasn't, I don't even think anyone congratulated Boozer for making the All-Star team. Or Okur for making it. There was a lot of complaining about how Deron Williams wasn't selected. Maybe one person congratulated him.

I do think cjets or someone did say that Okur was the Money Man, and that he deserved it that year. At least I remember one positive comment.

Back to Stockton's free throws, the thing about him not being a 90% shooter is that I like the feeling of seeing a 90% shooter at the line. His teammates know that he's "automatic", and the opposition knows it too. There's always that sense of dread when someone that good is at the foul line. Kyle Korver has had a few 90% seasons, and lead the league in FT% in 2006-2007.

Also, sometimes broadcasters talk about the 170 club. That means 50% FG, 40% 3's, 80% FTs. That's not not an elite level though.

Sometimes, they'll tighten the requirements and say 180 club. 50% FG, 40% 3's, 90% FTs.

Only a few people a year might make that club.

What I want to see is whether anyone has made the 190 club. 50% FG, 50% 3's, 90% FTs. Maybe you can help.

Kyle Korver had a year where he shot 53% from 3's. But he shot 79.6% from the foul line. Lol.

I was so rooting for him to do it in 2015. That was the year he made his first and only All-Star appearance. I was tracking it all year. 48.7% FG, 49.2% 3's, 89.8% FTs. That's the 187.7 club.

 

[nuraman00]

I think the strongest criticism/joke we have here is calling Malone “always” second. But I wonder between your surprise on Stockton’s free throws and things like this whether Stockton gets more in frequency?

Free throws are a delicate topic. Even if Stockton didn't have many double digit attempt games where he was perfect, Malone wasn't as good as I would have wanted either. He wasn't terrible, not like DeAndre Jordan or Ben Wallace or Tristan Thompson or Ben Simmons or Rajon Rondo or Lonzo Ball.

But when he has a famous game in the playoffs where he missed FTs, it's tough to feel very happy to find some regular season games where he did well.

He probably needed a title to put him in the same regard as Shaq. What I mean is that even if Shaq missed a bunch of FTs, including in the playoffs, the fact that he won makes people remember more about his wins, than his flaws.

Malone needed a title to make people not quickly remember games where he missed FTs.

 

[nuraman00]

Lebron James isn't great at FTs. That's probably his biggest weakness.

I remember watching this game during his rookie year, on ESPN:

Cleveland Cavaliers at Milwaukee Bucks Play-By-Play, January 30, 2004 | Basketball-Reference.com

0:41.5 L. James misses free throw 1 of 3 91-96
0:41.5 Offensive rebound by Team 91-96
0:41.5 L. James misses free throw 2 of 3 91-96
0:41.5 Offensive rebound by Team 91-96
0:41.5 L. James misses free throw 3 of 3 91-96

This was in a game the Cavs lost by 6. Those were his only misses from the foul line too, during that game. So yeah, missed FTs cost them a great chance at winning.

But because James has won, people don't think about the FTs.

 

[MHSL82]

Malone was a good enough free-throw shooter. It was the fact that he could shoot around 80% from the line that made his misses in the clutch games an issue. I one hundred percent object to your mention of DeAndre Jordan has sufficient to say that Malone isn’t terrible. That’s like saying that someone isn’t Tom Thumb to describe someone who is 6 foot tall in basketball.

So he’s not turn-off the TV because you knew it was going to happen reliable, but he was consistently good for a big man. I know you probably don’t like me talking about big man shooting as opposed to anyone else, but I bet you would find that to be true.

And there are a lot of players to practice free throws even though that they are in one category of big man and those who don’t practice it often who are in the category of not big men.

Did you know that Jeff Hornacek only shot over 90% once in his career and that was his last year in the league?

 

[nuraman00]

Malone was a good enough free-throw shooter. It was the fact that he could shoot around 80% from the line that made his misses in the clutch games an issue. I one hundred percent object to your mention of DeAndre Jordan has sufficient to say that Malone isn’t terrible. That’s like saying that someone isn’t Tom Thumb to describe someone who is 6 foot tall in basketball.

So he’s not turn-off the TV because you knew it was going to happen reliable, but he was consistently good for a big man. I know you probably don’t like me talking about big man shooting as opposed to anyone else, but I bet you would find that to be true.

And there are a lot of players to practice free throws even though that they are in one category of big man and those who don’t practice it often who are in the category of not big men.

Did you know that Jeff Hornacek only shot over 90% once in his career and that was his last year in the league?

I don't like adding the qualifier that Malone was good "for a big man", because that implies that they are held to a less standard.

I think in the history of the game, there are a lot of big men who sucked at FTs, but also a lot that were good at it too.

I wonder which teams in history had their PF or C shoot technical FTs.

Is it ok to call Malone an 80% shooter when his 4 best seasons were between 78 - 79%? Doesn't he have to have a few seasons above 80%?

I did not know that Hornacek only shot above 90% once. There was a Spalding commercial, which showed everyone's FT rituals before shooting.

Since they showed Hornacek, I thought that he was one of the best in history at it. I didn't think they showed him mainly for his unique ritual.

 

[MHSL82]

Is it ok to call Malone an 80% shooter when his 4 best seasons were between 78 - 79%?

Yes. Because I was at least 80% of his average.

Doesn't he have to have a few seasons above 80%?

No. Of course not.

 

[nuraman00]

Is it ok to call Malone an 80% shooter when his 4 best seasons were between 78 - 79%?

Yes. Because I was at least 80% of his average.

Doesn't he have to have a few seasons above 80%?

No. Of course not.

Bad post.

 

[MHSL82]

There have been 455 games this year so far. How many games have both team scoring list and 100 points?

http://bkref.com/tiny/Si4aX Not including today.

Spoiler: Answer

30 including today; 30/455 = 6.59%

 

[MHSL82]

How many games last year?

http://bkref.com/tiny/yu5c7

Remember, you need to divide by two.

Spoiler: Answer

165/1230 = 13.4%

 

[MHSL82]

2016-17: http://bkref.com/tiny/Iv9lu

2015-16: http://bkref.com/tiny/zWzZ1

2014-15: http://bkref.com/tiny/ehgJj

2013-14: http://bkref.com/tiny/ehgJj

2012-13: http://bkref.com/tiny/62FRp

Spoiler: Answers

164, 13.33%; 239, 19.43%; 340, 27.64%; 616, 25.04%; 433, 35.2%