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I know many of us are in IDP dynasties or other leagues with one another and some don't really want to talk to heavy in strategies with opposing owners, but I'm tired of thinking about it and not discussing it with others who understand.

Travis Hunter is almost assuredly going to be drafted top 5-7, and could legit be primarily a WR or a DB, most likely will be doing both in the NFL, although it's anyone's guess as to which will be his primary spot but it's widely assumed DB is the best bet.

Most likely he ends up with Dual position eligibility as a DB/WR

You know he'll probably get 4-6 targets a game once he gets going, which may or may not seem like much, but for an IDP- an extra 5-6 points a week is huge when your generally talking about 15 as a high end expectation. And if he does catch fire for some reason, and end up being a key cog in a WR rotation, who knows?

So, do your IDP leagues score DB's who might catch passes? and if so, where do you draft this dude in a dynasty rookie draft? or a redraft?
 

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Colorado DB/WR Travis Hunter was listed as a defensive back on the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine invite list.
The question everybody wants answered is whether or not Hunter will play as a defensive back or as a receiver at the pro level. While this list doesn’t put any guarantees on how Hunter will be utilized once he reaches the NFL, it perhaps offers some insight into how teams view him heading into the draft. The two-way player excelled as both a defensive back and receiver during his three college seasons and was awarded the Heisman Trophy for his efforts last season. It’s still possible Hunter will do some drills with the receivers, but we may not get more clarity on that until the combine.
 

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I know many of us are in IDP dynasties or other leagues with one another and some don't really want to talk to heavy in strategies with opposing owners, but I'm tired of thinking about it and not discussing it with others who understand.

Travis Hunter is almost assuredly going to be drafted top 5-7, and could legit be primarily a WR or a DB, most likely will be doing both in the NFL, although it's anyone's guess as to which will be his primary spot but it's widely assumed DB is the best bet.

Most likely he ends up with Dual position eligibility as a DB/WR

You know he'll probably get 4-6 targets a game once he gets going, which may or may not seem like much, but for an IDP- an extra 5-6 points a week is huge when your generally talking about 15 as a high end expectation. And if he does catch fire for some reason, and end up being a key cog in a WR rotation, who knows?

So, do your IDP leagues score DB's who might catch passes? and if so, where do you draft this dude in a dynasty rookie draft? or a redraft?

I'm of the "IDP is for defensive points" lane.

Maybe the Ohtani rule could work where you can start him at SP or DH (WR or DB).
 

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I have been thinking about it a lot, also. I think you are spot on that he could be a game changer if you could start him at DB and get even WR3 or 4 numbers from him. I feel like 2 or 3 catches for 30 yards per game would vault him to the top of the DB list at the end of the year with a nice cushion. I may be overestimating, but there is a clear advantage in this scenario.
 

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I'm of the "IDP is for defensive points" lane.

Maybe the Ohtani rule could work where you can start him at SP or DH (WR or DB).


it all depends on the site...

here is the litmus test....

when the offensive team turns the ball over, and then the defensive team turns the ball over on same play, and a player on the offense picks up the ball and scores a TD, do you get that score??

happens at least once every season... most leagues dont give the player a TD...
 

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So, do your IDP leagues score DB's who might catch passes? and if so, where do you draft this dude in a dynasty rookie draft? or a redraft?
Pretty sure any league setting will score him for both sides of the ball. Leagues dont necessarily score based on offensive position. (Vrabel's redzone usage back in the day comes to mind.) Plus he'll get his IDP points.

Cant see a team using him both ways especially if he turns out to be an elite corner. Theyre in shorter supply than WR.
 

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Pretty sure any league setting will score him for both sides of the ball. Leagues dont necessarily score based on offensive position. (Vrabel's redzone usage back in the day comes to mind.) Plus he'll get his IDP points.

Cant see a team usingbhim both ways especially if he is an elite corner.
I would mostly agree. Dallas used PrimeTime quite a little at WR (67 targets, almost 500yards receiving in 1996), and he obviously was ELITE of the ELITE at CB, but that's the only time I can recall it happening. Not even Charles Woodson got much run at WR - 3 targets in 16 years.
So its a leap to assume that it'll be a difference maker..but if it does happen, do you want him to be on someone else's roster?
 

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I would mostly agree. Dallas used PrimeTime quite a little at WR (67 targets, almost 500yards receiving in 1996), and he obviously was ELITE of the ELITE at CB, but

...but if it does happen, do you want him to be on someone else's roster?
Might have to dbl check but i dont think Sanders scored well as a DB in IDP. Teams didnt throw his direction for good reason.

Dont think corners score much anyway compared to LB and DL.
 

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Might have to dbl check but i dont think Sanders scored well as a DB in IDP. Teams didnt throw his direction for good reason.

Dont think corners score much anyway compared to LB and DL.
oh shit no I know he didn't. He HATED tackling, and yes, teams rarely threw in his general direction. Never had more than 7 INT's and never had more than 66 tackles. He was a terrible IDP
 

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I know many of us are in IDP dynasties or other leagues with one another and some don't really want to talk to heavy in strategies with opposing owners, but I'm tired of thinking about it and not discussing it with others who understand.

Travis Hunter is almost assuredly going to be drafted top 5-7, and could legit be primarily a WR or a DB, most likely will be doing both in the NFL, although it's anyone's guess as to which will be his primary spot but it's widely assumed DB is the best bet.

Most likely he ends up with Dual position eligibility as a DB/WR

You know he'll probably get 4-6 targets a game once he gets going, which may or may not seem like much, but for an IDP- an extra 5-6 points a week is huge when your generally talking about 15 as a high end expectation. And if he does catch fire for some reason, and end up being a key cog in a WR rotation, who knows?

So, do your IDP leagues score DB's who might catch passes? and if so, where do you draft this dude in a dynasty rookie draft? or a redraft?

Don't have a pick early enough in any of my IDP leagues so don't mind being forthright:

He's my 1.02 behind Jeanty as of now

5-7pts from defense, 4-6pts from offense for the weekly floor with legit TD potential on both sides would be amazing production from IDP spot
 

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For IDP fantasy, you're drafting the potential "cheat code" upside of getting WR production from your IDP.

But all of that is assuming he's utilized as a WR. I think he will be, think he'll make it a point of emphasis in the draft process but again, I could be very wrong.

I'm getting the "I think I know what I'm worth" vibe from Shadeur and Travis, not in an overly cocky or detrimental way, just that they're coming into the draft with some of that Primetime swagger when they haven't even reached NeonDeion status yet
 

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For IDP fantasy, you're drafting the potential "cheat code" upside of getting WR production from your IDP.

But all of that is assuming he's utilized as a WR. I think he will be, think he'll make it a point of emphasis in the draft process but again, I could be very wrong.

I'm getting the "I think I know what I'm worth" vibe from Shadeur and Travis, not in an overly cocky or detrimental way, just that they're coming into the draft with some of that Primetime swagger when they haven't even reached NeonDeion status yet

You still need to make sure the site allows him points for both positions.

in baseball Ohtani very rarely gets points for both. And the league needs specific rules.
 

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You still need to make sure the site allows him points for both positions.

in baseball Ohtani very rarely gets points for both. And the league needs specific rules.
And that's the key. Depending on the level of customized scoring you've got access to, and what options the commish, or whatever, has chosen to implement IDP's may very well be limited to just defensive categories, some might include return yardage, some don't. Some might have offensive numbers applied, some may not.
Definitely a good reminder to stay on top of your league's scoring and be aware of it on draft day either way
 

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For IDP fantasy, you're drafting the potential "cheat code" upside of getting WR production from your IDP.

But all of that is assuming he's utilized as a WR. I think he will be, think he'll make it a point of emphasis in the draft process but again, I could be very wrong.

I'm getting the "I think I know what I'm worth" vibe from Shadeur and Travis, not in an overly cocky or detrimental way, just that they're coming into the draft with some of that Primetime swagger when they haven't even reached NeonDeion status yet
I've always gotten that form both of them, but in a totally different way for me as it applies to Shaduer. IMHO, he's very much the cocky, full of himself, entitled lil focker. He definitely thinks he's better than he is- and honestly, I don't blame him too much, everyone says he is. But he's not that great.
I do think Hunter is full of confident, fully justified, swagger with just a tiny touch of the other
 

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I don’t like scoring points for more than one facet of the game. You can be in a lineup for offense, defense or ST, but not two at a time.

I think Hunter is mostly going to be a Corner personally. He’s very small framed.
 

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You still need to make sure the site allows him points for both positions.

in baseball Ohtani very rarely gets points for both. And the league needs specific rules.

True, in my leagues, WRs get 1pt for tackles after INTs and IDPs get offensive stats if they play both sides, so that automatically elevates Hunter's value on my end
 

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Might have to dbl check but i dont think Sanders scored well as a DB in IDP. Teams didnt throw his direction for good reason.

Dont think corners score much anyway compared to LB and DL.

Its been a while since i did IDP. But i just looked at PFF's top corners for 2023 (after week 18 of 2023) and compared the list to FantasyPros' DB scoring for 2023.

Not good. (1) Most top scoring IDP DB's are safeties. And only 5 corners crack the top 20 DBs. (2) Of the top 10 corners on PFF's list, the first name to show up in IDP scoring is Rasul Douglas. He is ranked 8th by PFF and ranked 31st just among DB. Meaning that he probably wasnt on anyone's fantasy squad.

If Hunter is gonna be elite as a corner, doesnt look like that translates well for fantasy IDP.
 

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And that's the key. Depending on the level of customized scoring you've got access to, and what options the commish, or whatever, has chosen to implement IDP's may very well be limited to just defensive categories, some might include return yardage, some don't. Some might have offensive numbers applied, some may not.
Definitely a good reminder to stay on top of your league's scoring and be aware of it on draft day either way
It's all gonna depend on how the team/sites decide to list him following the draft. CB (or DB)/WR or just CB (or DB). Think Taysom Hill with duel eligibility (TE/QB) on some sites, just one or the other on other sites. Granted both are offensive categories for Hill, but he's the only duel listed guy I can think of offhand. If he get the duel listing he would get 'credit' for pts at either position - otherwise it'll just be for the position he is designated at.
BTW - you certainly aren't the only one interested in the outcome with him.
 

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I would mostly agree. Dallas used PrimeTime quite a little at WR (67 targets, almost 500yards receiving in 1996), and he obviously was ELITE of the ELITE at CB, but that's the only time I can recall it happening. Not even Charles Woodson got much run at WR - 3 targets in 16 years.
So its a leap to assume that it'll be a difference maker..but if it does happen, do you want him to be on someone else's roster?
On the flip side, if he doesn't play both ways, do you want to throw away your high pick on a DB?
 
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