Top 32 tournament Rf Gwynn vs Sosa

[obxyankeefan]

Top 32 players ranked by BRWAR(as of 6/18/15).

Rightfield Bracket is:

1 B Ruth 9
32 J D Drew 0

16 D Winfield 10
17 G Sheffield 3

8 R Jackson 7
25 E Flick 0

9 P Waner 7
24 W Keeler 0

4 F Robinson 7
29 K Cuyler 0

13 D Evans 13
20 I Suzuki 7

5 R Clemente 11
28 B Giles 2

12 T Gwynn
21 S Sosa

3 M Ott
30 R Staub

14 R Smith
19 V Guerrero

6 A Kaline
27 S Rice

11 H Heilmann
22 B Bonds

2 H Aaron
31 H Stovey

15 A Dawson
18 B Abreu

7 S Crawford
26 H Hooper

10 L Walker
23 E Slaughter

1 B Ruth
16 D Winfield

8 R Jackson
9 P Waner

4 F Robinson
13 D Evans

5 R Clemente

 

[obxyankeefan]

Tony Gwynn Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com

Sammy Sosa Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[obxyankeefan]

For the third week in a row the RF matchup is the best of the week. Due you like BA or Homers? How soon before the Roids are brought up?

 

[calsnowskier]

I can forgive the roads because of all the arguments I have made in the 18,738 Bonds threads that have come up on forums over the last 10 years or so.

But Sosa falls into a special class, along with Palmeiro, though. Sosa has the corked bat on top of everything else. Also, without the juice, I do not believe he would have been elite.

BUT...

His numbers WERE so Goad-Damned dominant. His numbers were near Bonds-like.

But then, on the other side, you have one of the greatest bat-control players in the history of the game. A guy who is WELL known as one of the great clubhouse-guys in the history of the game. He is one of the very few once in an organization guys. He IS Mr Padre.

So how much do the intangibles count in a battle like this?

If it were not SOOOO black-and-white, as it is in this case, I would likely say "none at all". But this one is a black-and-white situation, so I think it needs to enter the conversation.

I am strongly leaning towards Gwynn here, but I am going to hold off a day or so to hear some arguments.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

When comparing greats to greats I do think tony Gwynn is extremely overrated. Again, I hate players who don't homer AND don't walk.

sosa was absolutely dominant at his peak. I'll go Sosa

 

[StanMarsh51]

Gonna go with Gwynn...even with the great prime for Sosa, Gwynn has a better OPS+ and WAR. Sosa's body of work outside of that 5-year prime (which accounts for nearly 2/3 of his total games) is nothing special.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Gonna go with Gwynn...even with the great prime for Sosa, Gwynn has a better OPS+ and WAR. Sosa's body of work outside of that 5-year prime (which accounts for nearly 2/3 of his total games) is nothing special.

I think we just had a winning argument.