Top 32 tournament RF Clemente vs Giles

[obxyankeefan]

Top 32 players ranked by BRWAR(as of 6/18/15).

Rightfield Bracket is:

1 B Ruth 9
32 J D Drew 0

16 D Winfield 10
17 G Sheffield 3

8 R Jackson 7
25 E Flick 0

9 P Waner 7
24 W Keeler 0

4 F Robinson 7
29 K Cuyler 0

13 D Evans 13
20 I Suzuki 7

5 R Clemente
28 B Giles

12 T Gwynn
21 S Sosa

3 M Ott
30 R Staub

14 R Smith
19 V Guerrero

6 A Kaline
27 S Rice

11 H Heilmann
22 B Bonds

2 H Aaron
31 H Stovey

15 A Dawson
18 B Abreu

7 S Crawford
26 H Hooper

10 L Walker
23 E Slaughter

1 B Ruth
16 D Winfield

8 R Jackson
9 P Waner

4 F Robinson
13 D Evans

 

[obxyankeefan]

Roberto Clemente Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com

Brian Giles Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[Nosferatu]

I'm surprised Milk hasn't posted how overrated Clemente was. Brian Giles had a nice career but this one seems like a runaway...

 

[navamind]

Amazing how much better Clemente was in his 30's than his 20's. Up until, well, you know...

 

[HammerDown]

My boy B-Giles all the way!

Roberto who?

 

[obxyankeefan]

My boy B-Giles all the way!

Roberto who?

Homer much.

 

[thedddd]

LOL someone voted for Giles. Roids did wonders for him.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Steroids or not Giles is the better player. He had a .400 OBP. And averaged over 100 walks per 162 games.

All Clemente was was a good defender. And he wasn't special at that. Any player who doesn't hit for power and does not walk is not a good offense bat. Even if they hit over 300.

Giles is the clear choice. Don't hate steroids just take em!

 

[StanMarsh51]

Steroids or not Giles is the better player. He had a .400 OBP. And averaged over 100 walks per 162 games.

All Clemente was was a good defender. And he wasn't special at that. Any player who doesn't hit for power and does not walk is not a good offense bat. Even if they hit over 300.

Giles is the clear choice. Don't hate steroids just take em!

Well they also played in totally different eras...Clemente's career OPS+ is 130, compared to Giles at 136, so offensively, it's pretty close, and that's before you take into account Giles had a shorter career by about 600 games.

And I'd say you're severely underrating Clemente's defense...his career FRAA is +205, which is historically great.

 

[HammerDown]

LOL someone voted for Giles. Roids did wonders for him.

You're a Pirates fan. You should know if Roberto hadn't died tragically he'd be just another average baseball player. Brian Giles was above average.

 

[thedddd]

^To really think Giles was above average and Clemente wasn't is just absurd it is not worth arguing about.

Giles 4 best WAR years: 6.6, 6.4, 5.3 and 5.3 and this was while he was in Pittsburgh. After that his value dropped.
Clemente: 8.9, 8.2, 8.1 and 7.5.