Top 32 tournament 3B Brett vs Chipper

[obxyankeefan]

Top 32 players ranked by BRWAR(as of 6/18/15).

3Basemen Bracket is:

1 M Schmidt 6
32 D DeCinces 0

16 S Bando 3
17 D Evans 7

8 P Molitor 10
25 H Groh 2

9 R Santo 7
24 D Wright 1

4 G Brett 12
29 J McGraw 0

13 B Bell 6
20 J Collins 0

5 C Jones 13
28 M Williams 0

12 G Nettles 8
21 S Hack 3

3 W Boggs 13
30 D White 0

14 F Baker 9
19 R Cey 1

6 A Beltre 13
27 L Cross 0

11 E Martinez 11
22 T Harrah 1

2 E Mathews 11
31 G Gaetti 0

15 K Boyer 7
18 R Ventura 5

7 B Robinson 9
26 L Gardner 0

10 S Rolen 9
23 B Elliott 0

1 M Schmidt 15
17 D Evans 0

8 P Molitor 4 advances on seed
9 R Santo 4

4 G Brett 13
13 B Bell 0

5 C Jones 7
12 G Nettles 1

3 W Boggs 9
14 F Baker 2

6 A Beltre 10
11 E Martinez 2

2 E Mathews 11
15 K Boyer 0

7 B Robinson 6
10 S Rolen 5

1 M Schmidt 10
8 P Molitor 0

4 G Brett
5 C Jones

3 W Boggs
6 A Beltre

2 E Mathews
7 B Robinson

1 M Schmidt

 

[obxyankeefan]

George Brett Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com
Beat John McGraw and Buddy Bell 25-0

Chipper Jones Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com
Beat Matt Williams and Craig Nettles 20-1

 

[obxyankeefan]

I thought this one was going to be close, but the only thing Brett has Jones in is BA. and that is only .002 points for their careers. Brett also has D, but neither one of them were that great at D.

I really was surprised to see the difference between these two.

 

[calsnowskier]

OPS+ Brett/Jones

120 - 12/12
130 - 9/9
140 - 8/8
150 - 3/6
160 - 2/6
170 - 2/2
180 - 1/0 (203)

Interesting spread. Jones was more consistent, but Brett had the MONSTER season.

oWAR7

Brett - 47.8
Jones - 47.3

Wow. SUPER close...

Accolades...

Brett - 1 MVP, 3 top 10 MVP, 11 All-Star, 2 SS
Jones - 1 MVP, 5 top 10 MVP, 8 All-Star, 2 SS

Neither utilized speed as a major weapon, but Jones did have 2 20/75% seasons.

I am not a fan of defensive metrics, but in an analysis this close, I have to at least look at it...

As a 3B, Brett only had 2 negative seasons and had 6 seasons greater that 1.0 and 2 seasons greater than 2.0. Jones had 6 negative seasons and only 1 season over 1.0.

Summary...

Jones had the better bat. Brett had the better season, but Jones had 6 150+ compared to Brett's 3, and 6 160+ vs Brett's 2.

Brett has a slightly better oWAR7, but they are within 1% of each other.

According to metrics, Brett was the better defender.

I think I will have to go with Jones because of his offensive consistency, but for me, this one is SUPER close.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Power-Brett wins(VERY CLOSE)
XBH%
Brett-Career=9.6, Best=12.8, 500 PA better than average=9,MLB average=6.6
Jones- Career=9.9, Best=12.5, 500PA better than average=5, MLB average=7.8

BB- Chipper wins(NOT CLOSE)
BB%
Brett-Career=9.4, BEST=15.5, 500PA better than average=9, MLB average=8.6
Jones- Career=14.3, BEST=18, 500PA better than average=6, MLB average=8.7

SO-Brett wins(relatively close)
SO%
Brett- Career=7.8, BEST=3.8, 500PA better than average=9. MLB average=13.9
Chipper-Career=13.3,Best=9.3, 500PA better than average=9, MLB average=17.1

BA- Brett wins(Tie)
Brett- Career=.305, Best=.390, # of seasons over 300=10, 500PA better than average=9
Jones- Career=.303, Best=.364, # of seasons over 300=9, 500PA better than average=9

Playoffs-Brett wins(pretty much a tie)

Defense-Brett wins(Not Close)
dWAR
Brett- Career=1.2, best=2.1, 6 seasons over 1,10 seasons over 0
Jones- Career=-1.6,Best=1.1, 1 season over 1, 9 seasons over 0

defensive longevity-Jones wins(300 more games)
Career longevity-Brett wins(1000 more PA)
# of seasons over 499 PA= Chipper=14,Brett=17


First off, I did not realize how close this was going to be... They are pretty much ties at BA and power... But Chipper was a monster on base guy... so I give the offensive edge slightly to chipper... But the defense and longevity all go to Brett...

In a surprise upset I have Brett winning here... I really thought this was not going to be close and a clear win for Chipper...

 

[UK Cowboy]

I love Chipper. Great player, switch hitting weapon. That said, Brett was a an awesome player. Two of my favorites, I have Brett winning, but can see either argument