POLL Top 10 poll: #26 player in history - Runoff 2

[Cedrique]

I understand that argument. But he got caught running with the ball when everyone in the world knew running with the ball was no longer allowed, and moreover, it was the BIGGEST rule in the game. If he had that kind of gall to continue running with the ball in that environment, that tells me he is probably doing lots of other stuff that is against the rules as well.

There are only 5 players who have potential in this discussion who fall into this category (Palmeiro, Cano, Rodriguez, Tatis, Ramirez). EVERYONE else got the message.

What other stuff would he be doing? There really aren't that many things you can do to enhance your performance that are not ok outside of taking illegal substances. It is extremely unusual because there is nothing that can help you nearly as much as PEDs. I can't even think of anything outside of stealing signs or corking your bat. (also extremely unusual) Outside of Sosa with the bat thing I can't think of anyone in the steroid era accused of doing anything else. (there could be but I can't think of one).

Also I'm sure not Everyone else got the message. I'm absolutely sure some people have slipped through the cracks over the years. Look at a guy like Nelson Cruz. Never failed a drug test but suspended for 50 games. How long was he doing it without anyone noticing?

 

[calsnowskier]

3 way tie with 8 votes as of now lol

I REALLY hope this doesn’t stand. And anyone who doesn’t want to give me ultimate power, you match want to make sure it DOESNT happen.

 

[Cedrique]

I REALLY hope this doesn’t stand. And anyone who doesn’t want to give me ultimate power, you match want to make sure it DOESNT happen.

That sounds like a challenge

 

[calsnowskier]

What other stuff would he be doing? There really aren't that many things you can do to enhance your performance that are not ok outside of taking illegal substances. It is extremely unusual because there is nothing that can help you nearly as much as PEDs. I can't even think of anything outside of stealing signs or corking your bat. (also extremely unusual) Outside of Sosa with the bat thing I can't think of anyone in the steroid era accused of doing anything else. (there could be but I can't think of one).

Also I'm sure not Everyone else got the message. I'm absolutely sure some people have slipped through the cracks over the years. Look at a guy like Nelson Cruz. Never failed a drug test but suspended for 50 games. How long was he doing it without anyone noticing?

Corking isn’t the only thing that can be done with bats. Other materials can be put in them that are not obviously visible upon a broken bat. And kits the cut of the bat can be doctored.

But I have no idea what else they could do. I am not at that level to know what is even possible.

 

[calsnowskier]

That sounds like a challenge

I can guarantee you ARod won’t win if it is a 3-way tie.

 

[Cedrique]

I can guarantee you ARod won’t win if it is a 3-way tie.

I'm actually off ARod this time as well. I dinged him a little more when I realized that testing started in 2005 and not After 2005. So if you want to eliminate or discount seasons after that he loses another good season, putting Mathewson ahead of him.

 

[LHG]

I can guarantee you ARod won’t win if it is a 3-way tie.

The silent majority is making sure you won't need to intervene.

 

[broncosmitty]

Changed my ARod vote to Christy.

To offset the Griffey voters.

 

[Cedrique]

Changed my ARod vote to Christy.

To offset the Griffey voters.

We're all playing checkers, but you sir are playing Chess

 

[MilkSpiller22]

We're all playing checkers, but you sir are playing Chess

jusf need 3 more arod voters to change to Christy. And then we can bypass a runoff #3.

 

[LHG]

jusf need 3 more arod voters to change to Christy. And then we can bypass a runoff #3.

Maybe if you go first, two others will follow.

 

[calsnowskier]

The silent majority is making sure you won't need to intervene.

Wow. I did not expect THAT swing.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Maybe if you go first, two others will follow.

i just did... now we need one more...

 

[LHG]

i just did... now we need one more...

Looks like you got that last one . . . and cal hasn't voted yet (not sure if he would go Mathewson or Koufax on this one).

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Looks like you got that last one . . . and cal hasn't voted yet (not sure if he would go Mathewson or Koufax on this one).

he doesnt have to vote anymore... if he doesnt want to make a difficult decision..

but if he votes for anyone but Mathewson, we will have another runoff..

 

[LHG]

he doesnt have to vote anymore... if he doesnt want to make a difficult decision..

but if he votes for anyone but Mathewson, we will have another runoff..

Not to interrupt this riveting discussion, but…

Robinson
Berra
Mathewson
Koufax

Based on this post, I'd say he'd vote for Mathewson.