Right now, it looks like only the “no chancers” have a chance of bringing this to a 3rd runoff against Hornsby. The Hornsby and Wagner voters, I think, are likely the same people, while everyone else is split amongst the modern players.
I agree. I am just curious to see how Hornsby/Morgan can be argued in favor of Morgan.
I know you are a big Young and Speaker defender. While I don’t agree with those placements, I get them. Outside of them, who do you see ahead of these guys, though?
I kind of wish we did best at positions first and then did this... i feel like lots of players get ignored simply because you default to what is believed...
There was a positional one a few years back
I've briefly mentioned Kid Nichols, Lefty Grove and Grover Alexander. I think they all are in the Top 25. Mike Trout, I've come to be convinced, is Top 20. I have mentioned that Roger Clemens is going to start to get one of my three votes after either Young or Hornsby get voted in. Mel Ott, as you mentioned, I'd put above Henderson. Here are the names I'd put, not necessarily in this order, of the remaining Top 25:
I will try to cycle some of these guys in through the rotational noms, see if any of them can get any traction.
I am ranking him as if he retired today. I don't know what he is capable of doing. I know the expectations are not high but I am hoping he puts in at least one more injury free season because when he was healthy regularly, he was fund to watch. Of course, even if he gets in an injury-free year or two before he does retire, I don't expect them to be anything close to his peak years but he'd still be pretty darn good.
I agree. Assuming he stays with the Angels his whole career, wouldnt we actually rate that as a positive for just about everyone else? Just because there is a narrative that he doesn’t care about winning, the actual action is an action that is praised almost everywhere else. And he is still young, so a career resurgence is certainly possible. We have seen it probably more often than we haven’t. And he already legit belongs in a top 20, top 30 discussion based on what he has already put in the bank.
Henderson has a higher career WAR than Schmidt. I wouldn't call that 'very difficult' tbh
It still blows me away that he hasn’t added to his WAR7 in the last 5 seasons.
Defense is a major part of the game.
100%
I guess.
There is no one else even in the discussion.
