TNF, SNF, & MNF conversations

[averagejoe]

Ha, also whenever you play the Cowboys.

Bears seem to play fairly often on Thanksgiving - either in Motown or Big D.

 

[TKOSpikes]

The Henry usage is why they lost. I can’t put it on Lamar.

And it wasn’t like they just didn’t given Henry the ball, he was on the sidelines.

Use him in play action at least.

The one drive they featured Henry they scored easily.

Go figure.

Three turnovers and two failed 2-point conversions is why they lost.

They scored easily on the first and last drive too.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

OK, that missed false start for the Bills can erase all the calls for the Chiefs if the Bills can pull out this W

Hate seeing ravens 2pt conversion failures lead to their demise, then potentially see the same for Bills. They'd be up 3 with the XPs

 

[SmokingMonkey]

1st down, Buffa... wait, what's that, the refs think the Chiefs got the stop? Guess they're right, everyone's eyes are wrong.

 

[TKOSpikes]

A few close calls, a blatantly bad one... but Josh needed to step up and didn't.

 

[leftypower]

A few close calls, a blatantly bad one... but Josh needed to step up and didn't.

Right, wrong or indifferent - on the scoreboard Mahomes out Josh Allen's Josh Allen rushing stat line. .... a very rare feat

 

[leftypower]

So, I guess we have a Chiefs - Elgles (Philly mayor's spelling) super bowl - - not the matchup I was looking for but they earned it.

 

[TREFF]

Didn't watch either game yesterday, but saw that Josh Allen 'not' making the 1st down 'highlight' ouch.

At what point does Goodell and the league say, 'hey, we hear all the rumbles of people thinking that officials are throwing games for the Chiefs, maybe we should put a little extra effort into NOT awarding them EVERY close call, and in essence confirming those opinions?"

I don't subscribe to that theory, but man, every single week, there's at least one more instance that makes you go...hmmmmm...

 

[TREFF]

My SB prediction-

Eagles 38, Chiefs 31

I just don't see the KC defense stepping up and stopping Barkley, Brown, Smith, Goedart and Hurts. And the offense just simply doesn't have the horses to keep up- except the QB, but he can only do so much.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Didn't watch either game yesterday, but saw that Josh Allen 'not' making the 1st down 'highlight' ouch.

At what point does Goodell and the league say, 'hey, we hear all the rumbles of people thinking that officials are throwing games for the Chiefs, maybe we should put a little extra effort into NOT awarding them EVERY close call, and in essence confirming those opinions?"

I don't subscribe to that theory, but man, every single week, there's at least one more instance that makes you go...hmmmmm...

I said it before the game, it's not the volume of calls tipped their direction, just wild that so many 50/50 calls fall their way in key scenarios

 

[TKOSpikes]

Why the Bills didn't spy Mahomes with Milano is beyond my ability to understand.
That Worthy "catch" was so obviously not a catch, but the Chiefs would have found another way down the field.
That Kincaid drop was disappointing, but Josh needs to see that blitz and hit the wide open RB in the flat.
The Chiefs stopped the "QB sneak over left guard" over and over. At some point, you gotta go the other way.
I saw no Shakir crossing routes and too many WR screens that just never seem to produce results.
Losing our best corner early didn't help.
D line didnt contain Mahomes, making his bootlegs seem like practice squad efforts (and again, should have had Milano spying).

I'm so frustrated. The refs certainly make it easy for conspiracy theorists, but I can't blame the refs for this all around choke job of the Bills offense.

I'm so dizzy. Circling wagons for so long comes with a melancholy that cannot be described outside of..... well, fuck.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Josh needs to see that blitz and hit the wide open RB in the flat.

When he rolled to the right vs the early pressure and the checkdown RB didn't get covered on the left, brutal decision made in the blink of an eye.

Think he was looking for something deeper and like you said, he needs to anticipate that better and escape to where he has options

 

[leftypower]

My SB prediction-

Eagles 38, Chiefs 31

I just don't see the KC defense stepping up and stopping Barkley, Brown, Smith, Goedart and Hurts. And the offense just simply doesn't have the horses to keep up- except the QB, but he can only do so much.

That's certainly a fair assessment of what to expect. ...... though it's hard to cast many $$ against the Chiefs IF they keep it close. I don't gamble on games but if I was a betting man I'd say the chances of your prediction are about 55-45% - close enough for one BIG play to seal the deal, one way or the other.

 

[leftypower]

I said it before the game, it's not the volume of calls tipped their direction, just wild that so many 50/50 calls fall their way in key scenarios

Didn't watch, but the photo you posted could be deceiving based on the angle (from behind the line) - then again maybe not..

 

[averagejoe]

Didn't watch, but the photo you posted could be deceiving based on the angle (from behind the line) - then again maybe not..

Lemme share this since you didnt watch.
After the play, the line judge on the far side (also he was facing Josh) was standing/marking the gain about a foot or 2 over the line of gain. But the line judge on the opposite side had it marked about a foot shy. When they came together from their respective sideline to spot the ball, the line judge facing the ball carrier ended up short.

 

[averagejoe]

...I dont understand how the line judge facing the play with a visual on the ball can mark it as a 1st down, and then let the opposite line judge with no clear view of the ball overrule the spot?

 

[leftypower]

Lemme share this since you didnt watch.
After the play, the line judge on the far side (also he was facing Josh) was standing/marking the gain about a foot or 2 over the line of gain. But the line judge on the opposite side had it marked about a foot shy. When they came together from their respective sideline to spot the ball, the line judge facing the ball carrier ended up short.

...I dont understand how the line judge facing the play with a visual on the ball can mark it as a 1st down, and then let the opposite line judge with no clear view of the ball overrule the spot?

Hummmm

 

[TKOSpikes]

...I dont understand how the line judge facing the play with a visual on the ball can mark it as a 1st down, and then let the opposite line judge with no clear view of the ball overrule the spot?

Always something with the Bills. Wide right, Music City miracle, 13 seconds...

I'm more concerned with the 3rd and 1 that preceded the 4th down debacle. We just have to make those plays. Meanwhile, Mahomes is rolling out to an empty field regularly.

Josh just didnt have it yesterday. It started on the first series, 3 and out. Two terrible throws. He shouldn't have jitters. Can't ask for much more than being down by three with 3:33 to go and win the game.

I'm glad Joe Brady declined the Saints, but I wonder if that scenario (for any coach) distracts from game prep. The NFL should wait until the Superbowl is over before any coach hirings.

 

[TREFF]

The NFL should wait until the Superbowl is over before any coach hirings.

Agreed one million percent

 

[tlance]

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1st down, Buffa... wait, what's that, the refs think the Chiefs got the stop? Guess they're right, everyone's eyes are wrong.

LOL.

Using that camera angle?

Cmon man.

It was extremely close. That is clearly not the angle to see it.