Series Thread: TkSecond Round: Pittsburgh Penguins v. Washington Capitals

[elocomotive]

Caps win 4-3. Nats win 12-4.

#BeatPittsburgh

 

[esls79]

After seeing the replay of OV's goal, I would have challenged he left the batter's box early on that bunt attempt.

 

[Droopdog51]

Well Pens fans, Caps had to have the lead in the series at some point. Otherwise, they cant live up to their choking history. So we have that going for us.

 

[thedddd]

Caps win 4-3. Nats win 12-4.

#BeatPittsburgh

Beating the Pirates with Scherzer pitching is like Alabama beating Mercer

 

[dare2be]

Beating the Pirates with Scherzer pitching is like Alabama beating Mercer

That's what Moneybags teams do to small market teams in the MBL, I mean MLB.

 

[elocomotive]

Somehow methinks the hockey gods are going to respond:

The Washington Nationals are taunting Pittsburgh sports fans with Patric Hornqvist's no-goal

The Nats used a hockey call to show how the Caps won game 2. OV used a baseball swing to finish it off game 3.

That's what the gods were trying to tell us.

 

[sbb122]

Well ZAR our means maybe we will see Sprong. Who am I kidding... moar Carter Rowney!!!

 

[thedddd]

^wonder if Hagelin will be ready? More like I hope.

 

[sbb122]

^wonder if Hagelin will be ready? More like I hope.

I’d like to see another line other than Crosby’s score a goal in this series.

 

[thedddd]

I’d like to see another line other than Crosby’s score a goal in this series.

Very true. I don't think Malkin and Kessel are healthy and it shows. The only thing Hagelin can do for them is give that line speed which both are lacking right now.
Sprong might be a good replacement for Simon?

 

[sbb122]

Very true. I don't think Malkin and Kessel are healthy and it shows. The only thing Hagelin can do for them is give that line speed which both are lacking right now.
Sprong might be a good replacement for Simon?

Has to be. Simon had less shifts than ZAR tonight. 10 to 8. Something’s gotta give.

 

[Comeds]

Has to be. Simon had less shifts than ZAR tonight. 10 to 8. Something’s gotta give.

Sorry

 

[Darkstone42]

Maybe Wilson's hit was legal, but if that's the case, the rules need an overhaul. And I'm not sure he deserves the benefit of the doubt anyway. I hope he gets at least a talking to, because he's been willfully dangerous, and I'm sure the league needs to stop letting that sort of thing stand.

But the Caps were the far better team in the third and earned the win.

 

[Zooky]

Maatta must feel like he lost the game tonight.
Tried to make the sneaky pass. Bad move. Then he ends up getting tripped

Good teams will punish you when make mistakes.

 

[esls79]

I would say that the rules just need to be interpreted better. The head may not have been the initial point of contact but if a guy gets blown up like that and gets a broken jaw, the head was sure as hell the principal point of contact, regardless of the initial absorption of some of that energy by his shoulder.

 

[elocomotive]

Maybe Wilson's hit was legal, but if that's the case, the rules need an overhaul. And I'm not sure he deserves the benefit of the doubt anyway. I hope he gets at least a talking to, because he's been willfully dangerous, and I'm sure the league needs to stop letting that sort of thing stand.

But the Caps were the far better team in the third and earned the win.

I think he'll get a one-game "we can only give you the benefit of the doubt so many times" suspension. Also, the RESULT of the play is often more important to the league and Aston-Reese's jaw is broken. So that doesn't bode well for Tom Wilson.

It's too bad. Tomas Hertl made an insanely dangerous slash the other night. It wasn't news partly because #EastCoastBias, because #TomWilson, and because the result was that he didn't really "land it." The intent was far worse than any of Wilson's hits this playoffs. The carnage simply wasn't there. So expect that to make a difference in the decision. And expect a one-gamer for Tommy.

In the bigger picture, Wilson is owning the Pens right now. They are mentally not on point and before the game talked about not being distracted by Wilson and needing to focus. Once in the game, they did just that. And it hurt them.

Love him or hate him, he's a huge X factor in the series right now.

 

[elocomotive]

I would say that the rules just need to be interpreted better. The head may not have been the initial point of contact but if a guy gets blown up like that and gets a broken jaw, the head was sure as hell the principal point of contact, regardless of the initial absorption of some of that energy by his shoulder.

But what you're saying just means taller and bigger guys can't check the same way shorter or smaller guys can because of the follow through. I'm not against that. I mentioned yesterday I think head contact should be auto penalty/escalating suspensions. But that's not the rule now. And if Aston-Reese was 6'4" like Wilson, his head isn't contacted during that hit.

 

[esls79]

But what you're saying just means taller and bigger guys can't check the same way shorter or smaller guys can because of the follow through. I'm not against that. I mentioned yesterday I think head contact should be auto penalty/escalating suspensions. But that's not the rule now. And if Aston-Reese was 6'4" like Wilson, his head isn't contacted during that hit.

Then the bigger and taller guys will need to find other ways to injure opponents - the've still got two knees and a stick they can use.

 

[Darkstone42]

Guys should be driving through their hits laterally rather than vertically anyway. If you're actually trying to make a hockey play, drive the player off the puck and keep your feet so you can do something. The only two reasons to lift through a hit are to make a highlight reel or hurt a guy.

 

[elocomotive]

Guys should be driving through their hits laterally rather than vertically anyway. If you're actually trying to make a hockey play, drive the player off the puck and keep your feet so you can do something. The only two reasons to lift through a hit are to make a highlight reel or hurt a guy.

True. BUT... ice has little friction. Both players on the Wilson hit tonight came off their feet momentarily. When the friction is not there on the ground, the energy has to go somewhere and players are often naturally carried into the air, spun sideways, etc. during even a perfectly legal check. It's frankly why you see ACL injuries in football all the time (energy transferred through the legs on a much "stickier" surface so the leg twists to release that energy) and why you don't see them in hockey very often (lack of friction means energy is released in any direction).

I think Wilson will get suspended because his right foot was off the ice slightly PRIOR to contact and due to the cumulative effect of the hits. Even though I thought tonight's hit wasn't as bad as last game's and per the rule, the head wasn't the "principal" point of contact.

I'm not defending Wilson. He's been a little out of control and needs a timeout. I'm just defending physics.