This weekend is why a 4 team playoff is perfect.

[Deep Creek]

Every game matters in terms of competing for a national championship. The regular season is relevant and are important. Had Stanford not lost at San Diego state the pac12 would’ve meany a lot more, but because they did lose it means they’re competing for a conference championship instead of a national championship. If we go to 8 you water down the regular season and who cares about Stanford losing at SDSU.

Also, last weekend games had playoff implications, Auburn and Alabama played against each other and that game mattered because it affected several teams playoff chances. (USC, TCU, Alabama, Ohio State).

If we had 8 teams, we’d have 2 spots for non conference champions, and there’d be 4-6 teams deserving of those two spots.

No it doesn't....and you even made the point with the "Had Stanford not lost...." qualifier. Once you've lost enough games, the rest of them don't matter one damned bit in regards to the CFP. Colorado versus Utah the last game of the year DID NOT MATTER so don't give me that "every game matters shit" because it doesn't.

And, Baylor versus Liberty back in September didn't matter either. This week's make up game between FSU and ULM only matters for FSU's bowl streak...IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL FOR CFP PURPOSES...even in regards to trying to help Bama and Clemson's SOS.

Some games definitely matter, but NOT EVERY GAME matters. So get outta here with the every game matters shit!

 

[Deep Creek]

Also, last weekend games had playoff implications,

Not all of 'em!

 

[uncfan103]

No it doesn't....and you even made the point with the "Had Stanford not lost...." qualifier. Once you've lost enough games, the rest of them don't matter one damned bit in regards to the CFP. Colorado versus Utah the last game of the year DID NOT MATTER so don't give me that "every game matters shit" because it doesn't.

And, Baylor versus Liberty back in September didn't matter either. This week's make up game between FSU and ULM only matters for FSU's bowl streak...IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL FOR CFP PURPOSES...even in regards to trying to help Bama and Clemson's SOS.

Some games definitely matter, but NOT EVERY GAME matters. So get outta here with the every game matters shit!

For teams with National Title hopes...every game matters. If we go to an 8 team playoff Colorado vs Utah still doesn't matter, FSU vs. ULM still doesn't matter and games for teams with National Title hopes have less meaning.

 

[outofyourmind]

No team has clinched a playoff spot yet going into the final week. 7 playoff contenders are playing each other if any those teams lose this weekend they are out of the playoffs while 6 of the 7 can clinch a playoff spot with a win

And an 8 team Playoff would just double the excitement.

 

[Deep Creek]

For teams with National Title hopes...every game matters. If we go to an 8 team playoff Colorado vs Utah still doesn't matter, FSU vs. ULM still doesn't matter and games for teams with National Title hopes have less meaning.

Not every game matters once they are out of the National Title hunt...ergo not every game for every team in the regular season matters. You just verified such with the clause bolded above. EVERY game doesn't matter. Those that want to "preserve the regular season" by stating "EVERY game matters" need to quit yapping like that because EVERY game doesn't matter. A lot of 'em matter, but not every damn one of 'em. You just said so above.

 

[Deep Creek]

And an 8 team Playoff would just double the excitement.

We can't have that shit.

 

[outofyourmind]

We can't have that shit.

 

[Deep Creek]

You turd! What makes you think I'm old enough to remember that slogan?

 

[DHoey]

I'm just glad that we have a committee of experts to tell us who the best teams are instead of deciding it on the field.

 

[navamind]

I don’t want 8 teams. 4 is fine.

I do. Deal with it.

 

[uncfan103]

Not every game matters once they are out of the National Title hunt...ergo not every game for every team in the regular season matters. You just verified such with the clause bolded above. EVERY game doesn't matter. Those that want to "preserve the regular season" by stating "EVERY game matters" need to quit yapping like that because EVERY game doesn't matter. A lot of 'em matter, but not every damn one of 'em. You just said so above.

Fewer games matter if you move to 8 teams.

 

[8085sooner]

And an 8 team Playoff would just double the excitement.

We have it right now, these are the quarter finals!

 

[BigAppleBadger]

We have it right now, these are the quarter finals!

Only if you say that only conference champs make the playoff.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

For teams with National Title hopes...every game matters. If we go to an 8 team playoff Colorado vs Utah still doesn't matter, FSU vs. ULM still doesn't matter and games for teams with National Title hopes have less meaning.

We have it right now, these are the quarter finals!

Fakes and false we have a PAC 12 CCG with two losses not even in the discussion. While we have other two loss teams with the same or similar resumes. Not every game matters the Alternative Press, Ciacjes and Comittee matters. You could very easily say expanding to 8 with 5 P5 auto bids. And 3 at large. Not only gives the regular season and post season games more meaning. But increases the quality. 5 spots chosen in the field. The other 3 everyone can still be debated

 

[iowajerms]

This year works great for a 4-year playoff, but I think an 8-team playoff worked better last season. Two of the CCGs last year did not determine who made the playoff, where they will likely determine them this year.

 

[WizardHawk]

Not every game matters once they are out of the National Title hunt...ergo not every game for every team in the regular season matters. You just verified such with the clause bolded above. EVERY game doesn't matter. Those that want to "preserve the regular season" by stating "EVERY game matters" need to quit yapping like that because EVERY game doesn't matter. A lot of 'em matter, but not every damn one of 'em. You just said so above.

Yeah? And?
Saying 'every game matters' implies as it relates to the topic of how many playoff seats to have doesn't it?

I mean every game doesn't have playoff implications and games for teams that are 1-10 really don't matter much in the last week of the season. Doesn't that go without saying?

For the purposes of discussing whether or not to expand from 4 to 8 or 16 or any of the other flavors pitched, the simple truth is every slot you add takes something away from some amount of games greater than zero in the regular season and possibly diminishes the importance and relevancy of conference championship games.

If we had 8 there is no doubt we would add teams that didn't make into their conference championship games, more or less add some that lost those championship games. That's a fact. This removes intensity of those games and the importance FOR TEAMS ACTUALLY IN THE PLAYOFF HUNT of games down the stretch. You might even see a few teams rest all of their stars in their rivalry game/last week if it is irrelevant enough because they are undefeated and would be in with a loss anyway. It would start looking more and more like the ho hum NFL playoffs where losses don't mean much and half the league has a chance at winning it all and teams can rest players going into the final weeks.

None of this is made up. We already have that now with 4 over 2. A few short years ago there was zero chance a 2 loss team was in the BCS final and no team had any chance of even thinking about resting players or saying ANY game ever was not important. There were those saying Bama's game against Auburn might not matter even though a loss knocked them out of the CCG. Now it still might cost them a playoff spot, but there's no chance they would have been in the BCS finals in our last system. There are few examples of that now, but there would be many many more if we again double it to 8. These are facts.

 

[Deep Creek]

Fewer games matter if you move to 8 teams.

Ahhh, now you are using the term "fewer" instead of every game. I'm much more in agreement with this that "every game matters in the regular season" crap that is spewed.

However, thecrowd that didn't even want to go to four said the same. And after nearly four years, it sure seems like games that were inconsequential for some teams may now actually matter and have an impact on them getting into the CFP. So the number of games that matter may well have increased instead of decreased. And not just direct games team are playing. Some indirect games matter a lot to teams that have a shot at the playoffs.

 

[DHoey]

The games that matter have absolutely increased since they implemented the +1 system.

 

[uncfan103]

Fakes and false we have a PAC 12 CCG with two losses not even in the discussion. While we have other two loss teams with the same or similar resumes. Not every game matters the Alternative Press, Ciacjes and Comittee matters. You could very easily say expanding to 8 with 5 P5 auto bids. And 3 at large. Not only gives the regular season and post season games more meaning. But increases the quality. 5 spots chosen in the field. The other 3 everyone can still be debated

But going to 8 games is just means there will be 3 or 4 teams that believe they deserve to be included because they're a top 8 team. Southern Cal isn't the best team in the country, neither is Stanford. They should be in over Ohio State if both win because of their resumes, but that doesn't mean that Southern Cal has had the best season and should be a National Champion. And, an 8 team playoff with 5 autoberths and likely a G5 team means you'd have 2 at large bids.

In that scenario you'd have this this year:
Alabama
Clemson/Miami winner
Auburn/UGA winner
Wisconsin/Ohio State winner
USC/Stanford winner
Oklahoma/TCU winner
G5

And the final spot goes to a conference championship loser. And then you're opening the door to teams playing 3 times in a season, 3 loss national champions and OOC games that don't mean anything.

 

[WizardHawk]

The games that matter have absolutely increased since they implemented the +1 system.

This too is true, with an *. More teams are not out of it late. There is no doubt that is true. But it is still true that the road becomes easier and easier with more margin of error with more spots. It's simple economics.