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and bye is BS...

I thought we trying to get the best 12 teams in a playoff situation... not getting mary's little lambs in the playoffs with a bye... Whoever came up with this rule got shit for brains... Have we not seen this trainwreck with TCU a few years back??? Now every year we have to fuck around with this shit...

Starting with SMU getting smoked today by Clemson and still getting a free ride into the top 12..... WTF

There's a half dozen teams (outside the top 12) thats that would knock that shitty team like a little bitch...
 

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and bye is BS...

I thought we trying to get the best 12 teams in a playoff situation... not getting mary's little lambs in the playoffs with a bye... Whoever came up with this rule got shit for brains... Have we not seen this trainwreck with TCU a few years back??? Now every year we have to fuck around with this shit...

Starting with SMU getting smoked today by Clemson and still getting a free ride into the top 12..... WTF

There's a half dozen teams (outside the top 12) thats that would knock that shitty team like a little bitch...
Amen - Brother. Too much money involved but really it should be SEC Champ vs B1G Champ and be done with the SMU’s & Boise’s!!!!
 

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Amen - Brother. Too much money involved but really it should be SEC Champ vs B1G Champ and be done with the SMU’s & Boise’s!!!!

How can we award a nobody that beat nobody with not only a spot at the big table but a fucking bye?? LOL

No only that but they pushing heisman's on us as well .... 98 out of 100 college football fans couldn't name one player on either one of those teams... What a fucking joke this is..

Might as well throw Army in the top 12 also... Fuck it
 

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Starting with SMU getting smoked today by Clemson and still getting a free ride into the top 12..... WTF
Oh so this game is over?? SMU got smoked??
 

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Oh so this game is over?? SMU got smoked??

Yep... It's over now..

Will Ferrell Lol GIF
 

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So, I agree. SMU and boise should be in, but ranked where they are, not a first round bye at 3 and 4.

1 oregon
2 georgia
3 notre dame
4 texas
5 penn st.
6 OSU
7 Tenn
8 boise st
9 indiana
10 ariz. st.
11 smu
12 clemson

first round
Clemson at Penn St. - plays texas
Indiana at boise st. - plays oregon
Smu at OSU - plays notre dame
Ariz. St at Tenn. - plays georgia
 

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So, I agree. SMU and boise should be in, but ranked where they are, not a first round bye at 3 and 4.

1 oregon
2 georgia
3 notre dame
4 texas
5 penn st.
6 OSU
7 Tenn
8 boise st
9 indiana
10 ariz. st.
11 smu
12 clemson

first round
Clemson at Penn St. - plays texas
Indiana at boise st. - plays oregon
Smu at OSU - plays notre dame
Ariz. St at Tenn. - plays georgia

What is all this?? How you think they should play??
 

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What is all this?? How you think they should play??
What the rankings should be and the first round games. It takes out the lock spots for conference champs. Many think this will be what happens. as it is now there is a flaw in the layout. #8 and #10 ranked teams should not be gifted the #3 and #4 playoff bye spots. All the conference champs are still IN the playoffs.
 

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Winning your conference has to mean something. Otherwise, what is the point of all of this?
conference winners are all still getting in. but no way in hell they should be gifted a higher spot than what they deserve.
 

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So, I agree. SMU and boise should be in, but ranked where they are, not a first round bye at 3 and 4.
NO, NO, NO! You are missing the point. There should be NO auto bids.
If you want auto bids then ALL conference champs should get in and not just the B1G champs (which is what you're interested in). If all champs got auto bids then the B1G would split into three 6-team conferences to get three auto bids and the same with other conferences. THat would give us ~22 auto bids currently. The all the other teams in FCS would move up to FBS to get auto bids. Why not? If the only criterion is Conference Champion to get an auto bid.
If your conference champ can't get in on their OWN merit then TOOOOO BAAAAD!!!

In 2018, OSU played Northwestern for the B1G championship. Suppose that NW won the game. In your world NW would get an autobid with a 9-4 record with losses to Duke and Akron!
 

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conference winners are all still getting in. but no way in hell they should be gifted a higher spot than what they deserve.
Let me fix your statement:

conference winners MAY all still get in. but no way in hell they should any team be gifted a higher spot than what they deserve.
 

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Winning your conference has to mean something. Otherwise, what is the point of all of this?
The only thing I would change is reseed the teams after the first round and if an independent is ranked in the top 4 they get a bye.

Oregons path is not good considering they are #1

I like the fact conference champs get a bye. It’s gotta mean something plus they are playing an extra game teams like Ohio state and Notre dame and Tennessee aren’t. Not playing and getting rest is an advantage
 
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So speaking of Oregon, can I ask a question?

How does Oregon -- in any scenario from here on out -- not deserve at least a share of the National Championship?

Oregon will finish this season with a resume that is, at absolute worst, as good as any other team in the country. They are 13-0, and the only teams that can even finish with one loss, if they win the tournament, are Notre Dame, Indiana, and Boise State. To put it extremely mildly, at 13-1, Oregon's resume would still be better than any of those three, and they beat Boise State head-to-head. Oregon has four wins that are better than any possessed by ND, IU, and BSU combined.

If Oregon wins even one game in the tournament, there's no contest between them and any other team. If Oregon doesn't win again, and Georgia doesn't lose again, reasonable people could argue that Georgia at 14-2 would have a resume similar to Oregon at 13-1. No other team can plausibly claim the title alone, based on the season. Compared to the rest of the field, Oregon again will have a superior resume even if they lose their next game. All of those teams will have one more loss ( 2 for Clemson ) than Oregon and none have faced the Ducks' difficulty of schedule -- only Clemson is close, and they lost three times.

Oregon is the only team in the tournament that already has a win over a Quarterfinalist. They've also already beaten 25% of the rest of the tourney field. Even if, say, Notre Dame goes on a run to the last game, they'd basically be replicating what Oregon has already accomplished -- Georgia and Ohio State are basically the same, and ND would probably have to beat either Boise or Penn States, which again, Oregon has BTDT.

Basically, the committee better be praying that Oregon wins three more games, or they're going to have to go back to the drawing board for yet another playoff system -- and we should have co-champions in that case.

For the record, yes, I am aware that there's a difference between what they'll deserve and what they'll get, as we've already seen with the tournament seeding.
 

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So speaking of Oregon, can I ask a question?

How does Oregon -- in any scenario from here on out -- not deserve at least a share of the National Championship?

Oregon will finish this season with a resume that is, at absolute worst, as good as any other team in the country. They are 13-0, and the only teams that can even finish with one loss, if they win the tournament, are Notre Dame, Indiana, and Boise State. To put it extremely mildly, at 13-1, Oregon's resume would still be better than any of those three, and they beat Boise State head-to-head. Oregon has four wins that are better than any possessed by ND, IU, and BSU combined.

If Oregon wins even one game in the tournament, there's no contest between them and any other team. If Oregon doesn't win again, and Georgia doesn't lose again, reasonable people could argue that Georgia at 14-2 would have a resume similar to Oregon at 13-1. No other team can plausibly claim the title alone, based on the season. Compared to the rest of the field, Oregon again will have a superior resume even if they lose their next game. All of those teams will have one more loss ( 2 for Clemson ) than Oregon and none have faced the Ducks' difficulty of schedule -- only Clemson is close, and they lost three times.

Oregon is the only team in the tournament that already has a win over a Quarterfinalist. They've also already beaten 25% of the rest of the tourney field. Even if, say, Notre Dame goes on a run to the last game, they'd basically be replicating what Oregon has already accomplished -- Georgia and Ohio State are basically the same, and ND would probably have to beat either Boise or Penn States, which again, Oregon has BTDT.

Basically, the committee better be praying that Oregon wins three more games, or they're going to have to go back to the drawing board for yet another playoff system -- and we should have co-champions in that case.

For the record, yes, I am aware that there's a difference between what they'll deserve and what they'll get, as we've already seen with the tournament seeding.
Playoffs do not and have not ever been about awarding the best team.
 

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So speaking of Oregon, can I ask a question?

How does Oregon -- in any scenario from here on out -- not deserve at least a share of the National Championship?

Oregon will finish this season with a resume that is, at absolute worst, as good as any other team in the country. They are 13-0, and the only teams that can even finish with one loss, if they win the tournament, are Notre Dame, Indiana, and Boise State. To put it extremely mildly, at 13-1, Oregon's resume would still be better than any of those three, and they beat Boise State head-to-head. Oregon has four wins that are better than any possessed by ND, IU, and BSU combined.

If Oregon wins even one game in the tournament, there's no contest between them and any other team. If Oregon doesn't win again, and Georgia doesn't lose again, reasonable people could argue that Georgia at 14-2 would have a resume similar to Oregon at 13-1. No other team can plausibly claim the title alone, based on the season. Compared to the rest of the field, Oregon again will have a superior resume even if they lose their next game. All of those teams will have one more loss ( 2 for Clemson ) than Oregon and none have faced the Ducks' difficulty of schedule -- only Clemson is close, and they lost three times.

Oregon is the only team in the tournament that already has a win over a Quarterfinalist. They've also already beaten 25% of the rest of the tourney field. Even if, say, Notre Dame goes on a run to the last game, they'd basically be replicating what Oregon has already accomplished -- Georgia and Ohio State are basically the same, and ND would probably have to beat either Boise or Penn States, which again, Oregon has BTDT.

Basically, the committee better be praying that Oregon wins three more games, or they're going to have to go back to the drawing board for yet another playoff system -- and we should have co-champions in that case.

For the record, yes, I am aware that there's a difference between what they'll deserve and what they'll get, as we've already seen with the tournament seeding.


New to college football, eh?
 

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New to college football, eh?

Not remotely, no. Did you have an attempted argument, or were you just going to hope to bluff your way through with ad hominem attack?
 

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Playoffs do not and have not ever been about awarding the best team.

I'd argue against your premise, but since I never said anything about the best team, that'd also be irrelevant.

I said they deserve at least a share of the National Championship, and awarding that is what we're doing here, innit?
 
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