These playoffs reaffirm: It's a QB league

[boogiewithstu2007]

Matt Ryan is one Super Bowl away from being a HoFer himself. Gotta have a QB on this league. That's why what Denver did last year was so amazing

Manning is a Hall of Fame QB ... People act like he was some kinda scrub, sure he declined from previous seasons but the dude is as prepared and as smart as they come... Denver had a good defense this year also, but without Manning things were different...

 

[rmilia1]

Manning is a Hall of Fame QB ... People act like he was some kinda scrub, sure he declined from previous seasons but the dude is as prepared and as smart as they come... Denver had a good defense this year also, but without Manning things were different...

True. Even if his skills had diminished his mental preparation was unparalleled

 

[ATL96Steeler]

He needs a much more substantial playoff history. As it stands now, he has 6 playoff starts and a grand total of 2 wins.

@rmilia1 is right here imo...it's a stats league...imo Matt does need a ring to really jump into a serious HOF conversation, but doesn't need 9 or 10 playoff wins.

 

[flyingelvis]

Matt Ryan HoF, even after winning a Super Bowl is premature. Please don't compare him to Brees.

He may get there since he's still young, but he has to string a few more years together like this one.

 

[bksballer89]

Matt Ryan HoF, even after winning a Super Bowl is premature. Please don't compare him to Brees.

He may get there since he's still young, but he has to string a few more years together like this one.

Yeah it is such a ridiculous claim

 

[rmilia1]

Matt Ryan HoF, even after winning a Super Bowl is premature. Please don't compare him to Brees.

He may get there since he's still young, but he has to string a few more years together like this one.

Not comparing them now. I'm saying that's the most likely comp at the end of his career. Or he wins 3 rings in the next 7 years and he's a top 5 all timer OR he never wins one and he's a poor man's Marino. I'm talking the most probable though

 

[Wazmankg]

I prefer the sport which is arguably the most team oriented, to be far less one position oriented. The game has never been as QB centric as it is now.

As others have said, QB has always been, by far, the most important position on the field .... at least as long as any of us has been following the game. What changes would you make to devalue the position ?

 

[Ojb81]

Yes, one of the best regular season QB's around. He really needs another SB win to put him in a different class than say, Brad Johnson.

aaron Rodgers surpassed brad Johnson's "class" many moons ago, my friend, even if he finishes his career with just the one superbowl win.

 

[Money]

@rmilia1 is right here imo...it's a stats league...imo Matt does need a ring to really jump into a serious HOF conversation, but doesn't need 9 or 10 playoff wins.

Joe Montana, Jim Kelly, John Elway, Dan Marino, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, Ken Stabler are the last 9 QB inductees.

I guess Ryan can hope to "Moon" his way into the HOF, but I just don't see it happening. Everyone else certainly has a substantial postseason resume.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Joe Montana, Jim Kelly, John Elway, Dan Marino, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, Ken Stabler are the last 9 QB inductees.

I guess Ryan can hope to "Moon" his way into the HOF, but I just don't see it happening. Everyone else certainly has a substantial postseason resume.

If we think Brees is a lock and I do...Matt need to stays on his current path for another 6 yrs, if so, he will be in the 60k+ range for yds...380 to 400 TDs...I think he'll be closer to Marino than Moon. If he doesn't get a ring it will be harder to get in, but those numbers will get him a lot of votes.

 

[Inimical]

True. Even if his skills had diminished his mental preparation was unparalleled

I mean if you compare Him and Tom the only difference was the injuries. I think Tom plays another 3 years and Peyton would still be tossing balls.

 

[Money]

If we think Brees is a lock and I do...Matt need to stays on his current path for another 6 yrs, if so, he will be in the 60k+ range for yds...380 to 400 TDs...I think he'll be closer to Marino than Moon. If he doesn't get a ring it will be harder to get in, but those numbers will get him a lot of votes.

Marino has 18 playoff game appearances and 8 wins. At his current pace, Ryan will get there sometime around age 67.

 

[rmilia1]

Playoff wins are largely irrelevant unless they lead to rings. Marino is in the HOF because of stats not because he was 8-10 in playoff games

 

[Ricky Roma]

As others have said, QB has always been, by far, the most important position on the field .... at least as long as any of us has been following the game. What changes would you make to devalue the position ?

For the last 4 decades, the NFL has repeatedly implemented rules in favour of the passing game. As I stated, it got to a point in the mid-70's when the game IMO, was far too defensive-oriented. It doesn't matter what I'd do, because the rules were put in place to protect QB's and make fans happy with pinball/fantasy numbers.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Marino has 18 playoff game appearances and 8 wins. At his current pace, Ryan will get there sometime around age 67.

LOL.

This conversation is fruitless if you think Marino got in for his 18 playoff appearances and 8 wins...lol

 

[Ricky Roma]

Then why are ratings up over the past 20 years?

Offense sells tickets? The explosion of fantasy football?

 

[Money]

Playoff wins are largely irrelevant unless they lead to rings. Marino is in the HOF because of stats not because he was 8-10 in playoff games

You do understand that this is simply your opinion, right? An opinion that happens to fit your Matt Ryan agenda perfectly.

 

[Money]

LOL.

This conversation is fruitless if you think Marino got in for his 18 playoff appearances and 8 wins...lol

He has a substantial playoff resume. So do all the others with the exception of Moon (who is the only one Ryan can catch at his pace).

If you want to laugh it off and consider it being some sort of coinky-dink, have at it.

 

[Great Dayne]

Matt Ryan is one Super Bowl away from being a HoFer himself. Gotta have a QB on this league. That's why what Denver did last year was so amazing

WTF? I bet You were high when you typed this. Matt Ryan has had one HOF type season and that was this year. Other than that he's been statistically ok and a playoff failure with the lowest playoff winning % of all QB's before last Saturday. One season doesn't make a player a HOF player.

Sorry Matty

 

[Great Dayne]

Since 2002 when the patriots won their first super bowl, look at who the AFC representative in the super bowl had had at quarterback

Brady
Gannon
Brady
Brady
Ben
Peyton
Brady
Ben
Peyton
Ben
Brady
Flacco
Peyton
Brady
Peyton
Brady/Ben

Wow, no elite QB = no SB appearance unless you have an all time great defense I guess.