The Rudy Gobert Thread

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Defensive Player of the Second Trimester - Marc Stein Blog - ESPN

 

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Watch both or watch neither. Or better put: the whole thing or nothing.

Andrew Wiggins Throws Hammer Down on Rudy Gobert, Stifle Tower Gets Revenge | Bleacher Report

 

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Not much content, but why not post? Shot-blocking Jazz legend Mark Eaton a fan of Gobert - NBA - ESPN

 

[nuraman00]

I love watching Rudy play. That pass he had to Jeremy Evans for the dunk; and that outlet pass he had later in the game, show other skills, such as passing, too.

Rudy and Anthony Davis are my favorite young bigs to watch. The Gasols, Randolph, Horford are my favorite veteran bigs.

I would like Lee and Bogut if they played big minutes, but they don't. I'm usually dissatisfied when watching their games, because of how little they play.

Duncan and Nowitzki can still be good, but they're not focal points; they don't play big minutes; and they're not in their prime.

I also like watching Diaw.

Gortat is ok too, he doesn't play big minutes though. Same with Valanciunas.

 

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NBA: Best sophomore performers

 

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Utah Jazz | Utah Jazz Team News

 

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Utah Jazz | Utah Jazz Team News

What am I supposed to be looking at? The LHM Day Of Service?

 

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What am I supposed to be looking at? The LHM Day Of Service?

Yes, duh.

Or the 189 blocks by Gobert. Was getting on a plane when someone gave me the link saying it had all blocks from Gobert this season. Didn't have time to watch it. Hopefully, it's there someone.

 

[nuraman00]

jayswag's thoughts:

+++++++++++++

Good jokes. If I drank every time Rudy made a good play, my liver would have failed me. This season, he was unreal. I think the last time I was this excited about a young Jazz player was DWill.

 

[MHSL82]

Not my words, but wanted to share. Gobert has to do this for a long time while people adjust to him. That would be hard to do, plus the NBA is different than before.

There was a thread on another forum trying to explain to us how Rudy Gobert will never be a star in the league because defensive specialists don't become stars and the example of Ben Wallace, Dikembe Mutombo and Dennis Rodman was given. I don't really care much whether or not the label "star" itself will be associated with Rudy but that post forced me to check some of those players' stats. My initial theory was that with the emergence of analytics players who help you win, be it offensively or defensively, would get their recognition and that those players from the past would have been held in higher regard at the time if people knew exactly how much their contributions were important for their teams winning. So I decided to delve into their advanced stats and here's something interesting I found - Rudy pretty much ANNIHILATES all of them in almost all advanced stats(VORP being the exception). Just in his second season he had better advanced stats than those 3 players ever had in their careers! 3 NBA GREATS! FOR THEIR FULL CAREERS!!!

Here's the best seasons for those players:

WS/48
DM 1998/1999: .206 (no other season above .200)
BW 2001/2002: .190
DR 1989/1990: .189
RG 2014/2015: .206

BPM:
DM 1998/1999: 4.6
BW 2001/2002: 5.9
DR 1991/1992: 4.9
RG 2014/2015: 5.8

VORP:
DM 1993/1994: 4.5
BW 2001/2002: 5.9
DR 1991/1992: 5.8 (his second best season is 4.2)
RG 2014/2015: 4.3

PER:
DM 1997/1998: 19.8
BW 2001/2002: 18.6
DR 1991/1992: 17.4
RG 2014/2015: 21.6

TS%:
DM 2005/2006: .626
BW 1998/1999: .539
DR 1988/1989: .613
RG 2014/2015: .627

It's hard to stress this enough - Rudy did this in his second season in the league. With 2 seasons in the league he ranks 1st in WS/48, first in TS%, first in PER, second in BPM, 4th in VORP out of those 4 defensive greats.

Mutombo - 18 seasons.
Rodman - 14 seasons
Wallace - 16 seasons

Just how good can Rudy be?

 

[nuraman00]

But Wallace, Mutombo, and Rodman were stars.

Especially the first 2. Multiple All-Stars, All-NBA teams. Rodman probably had a few All NBA teams too.

 

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[nuraman00]

He needs to have 19 rebound games against other teams, before the season ends.

 

[Sackataters]

Guy is flat out horrible on offense. Seriously one shade worse than Ostertag, the lubricated fumbler

 

[nuraman00]

Guy is flat out horrible on offense. Seriously one shade worse than Ostertag, the lubricated fumbler

LOL! I don't think he's that bad.

But his one-step power thrust shot isn't working that well right now.

 

[Sackataters]

How bad is he then? He doesn't appear to have the lift he had last year. Or, I wonder if Quinn has advised him to focus less jumping, and just be vertical like Pacers Hibbert ... contest but focus on the defensive rebounding. Do you think that he is so exceptional on defense to offset the weak offense? Whereas Kanters offense was not exceptional enough to offset his weak defense?

 

[nuraman00]

How bad is he then? He doesn't appear to have the lift he had last year. Or, I wonder if Quinn has advised him to focus less jumping, and just be vertical like Pacers Hibbert ... contest but focus on the defensive rebounding. Do you think that he is so exceptional on defense to offset the weak offense? Whereas Kanters offense was not exceptional enough to offset his weak defense?

This is a good question. Let me think about it during the upcoming playoffs series, since that's when he will get scrutinized the most.

 

[nuraman00]

Hayward likes him. Outlook At The Break - The Official Web Site of Gordon Hayward | NBA Forward

I wish I had followed his blog as the season went on. To be honest, I've only seen the LeBron video game post and this one (maybe one more somewhere). Some will think it's distracting, but how often do you get to read one's thoughts through the season. I wish I could have heard Stockton, though he'd never do it or would edit it down. (I'm not talking about the post-retirement auto-biography.)

Does he still blog this season?

 

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7 months without a post on Rudy?

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