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The Ravens only ran the ball 9 times against the Bills

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Wtf. What's going on with them? I understand that they have given everything to Flacco now and its his team, but you'd think they would still want to establish a ground game. I'm confused :scratch:
 

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With an elite qb like Flacco, why would you even bother running it at all?
 

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Wtf. What's going on with them? I understand that they have given everything to Flacco now and its his team, but you'd think they would still want to establish a ground game. I'm confused :scratch:

Their offensive line has played horrifically and Rice has been hurt.
 

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That is surprising. Makes a bit more sense now how they lost to Buffalo.
 

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Their offensive line has played horrifically and Rice has been hurt.

Pierce is a very good back. If your O line is struggling, you need to be running more. Don't want your big investment to be ruined by getting sacked too many times.
 

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With an elite qb like Flacco, why would you even bother running it at all?

I love how fans of other teams label him as elite and then make fun of it. Newsflash...if you have to fabricate a reason to make fun of someone...it's probably not worth it.
 

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Flacco's name isn't Brady, Peyton, or Rodgers. Therefore he isn't elite. But he is very firmly in the next tier.
 

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I love how fans of other teams label him as elite and then make fun of it. Newsflash...if you have to fabricate a reason to make fun of someone...it's probably not worth it.

I think it more has to do with Ravens fans after their Superbowl victory calling Flacco elite and on the level of Peyton, Tom, Drew, and Aaron. When they handed him his big contract everybody outside of Baltimore thought that was a bad decision. I understand why they did it but paying a guy to be top 5 in the league when he is clearly not is just bad for business.
 

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Flacco's name isn't Brady, Peyton, or Rodgers. Therefore he isn't elite. But he is very firmly in the next tier.

I disagree. He had one crazy hot stretch during the playoffs, but other than that he's very comparable to Andy Dalton.
 

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Flacco's name isn't Brady, Peyton, or Rodgers. Therefore he isn't elite. But he is very firmly in the next tier.

Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees.....A lot of names in contention for #5. Right now, it could be Romo. Call me crazy, but he's been lighting it up so far this season.
 

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I think it more has to do with Ravens fans after their Superbowl victory calling Flacco elite and on the level of Peyton, Tom, Drew, and Aaron. When they handed him his big contract everybody outside of Baltimore thought that was a bad decision. I understand why they did it but paying a guy to be top 5 in the league when he is clearly not is just bad for business.

A. I think you are taking comments from a very small minority and applying them to the entire Ravens' fanbase. Most Ravens' fans are very well aware that Flacco isn't elite. He has been good enough and extremely clutch. That's better than most.

B. If the Ravens didn't pay him that money, another team sure as shit would have. The Ravens didn't want to start over at the QB position after they have been struggling the fill the position since their beginning. Just look at how many teams to continue to struggle to find the one.

C. People are making too much of the contract. They are simply looking at the overall money and not the guaranteed money. You can talk about the big 4, but Romo and Ryan both make more money than Flacco. Flacco's contract in 2013 is no different than Eli's contract in 2009 or Ben's in 2008. It's just 4-5 years later.

How often does a team allow a franchise QB (just entering their prime) walk?
 

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I disagree. He had one crazy hot stretch during the playoffs, but other than that he's very comparable to Andy Dalton.

5 years in the league. 5 straight postseason appearances. 5 straight postseason appearances with at least 1 playoff victory. 11 playoff victories. 3 AFCCG appearances. 1 Super Bowl victory.

Comparable to Andy Dalton???
 

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A. I think you are taking comments from a very small minority and applying them to the entire Ravens' fanbase. Most Ravens' fans are very well aware that Flacco isn't elite. He has been good enough and extremely clutch. That's better than most.

B. If the Ravens didn't pay him that money, another team sure as shit would have. The Ravens didn't want to start over at the QB position after they have been struggling the fill the position since their beginning. Just look at how many teams to continue to struggle to find the one.

C. People are making too much of the contract. They are simply looking at the overall money and not the guaranteed money. You can talk about the big 4, but Romo and Ryan both make more money than Flacco. Flacco's contract in 2013 is no different than Eli's contract in 2009 or Ben's in 2008. It's just 4-5 years later.

How often does a team allow a franchise QB (just entering their prime) walk?

That is why I said I understood why they paid him. From a business sense it doesn't make the greatest sense but from a football sense I understand since even finding a competent quarterback is hard to do in this league so Flacco probably deserved at least close to that contract. I also understand his contract is backloaded and you cannot look at the overall number to understand how much a player is actually going to get paid. I think if I remember right it is in actuality more of a 3 year contract with decent but not top of the line money.

You are right it is a small minority but that small minority like most in the society seem to have the loudest and most annoying voice. Bronco fans for months got to hear about how great Flacco was from a few annoying fans and the above poster was just cracking a joke at their expense. I understand that doesn't represent the whole fan base and how they feel but you haven't dealt with those few fans for months now doing nothing but saying how great Flacco is and how much Peyton Manning Sucks.
 

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5 years in the league. 5 straight postseason appearances. 5 straight postseason appearances with at least 1 playoff victory. 11 playoff victories. 3 AFCCG appearances. 1 Super Bowl victory.

Comparable to Andy Dalton???

:clap: Congratulations on all those team accomplishments.
 

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:clap: Congratulations on all those team accomplishments.

It's a team sport ding dong. Everything is a team accomplishment. Every single freaking play is a team accomplishment (or lack thereof).

The only thing I know is the Ravens had never had close to the amount of success prior to Flacco as they have with Flacco. They've had some great defenses, great offensive lines, great running backs, but never a 5-year stretch like this.

Is it just one huge coinky-dink?
 

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It's a team sport ding dong. Everything is a team accomplishment. Every single freaking play is a team accomplishment (or lack thereof).

The only thing I know is the Ravens had never had close to the amount of success prior to Flacco as they have with Flacco. They've had some great defenses, great offensive lines, great running backs, but never a 5-year stretch like this.

Is it just one huge coinky-dink?

No its not a coinky-dink. When you put someone in at QB on those Ravens teams with a pulse, they will have some success.
 

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No its not a coinky-dink. When you put someone in at QB on those Ravens teams with a pulse, they will have some success.

That's pure speculation and nothing more.

Many people think Matt Ryan is a good QB (as do I), but it took probably the league's best receiving corps and 5th best scoring defense for him to finally get his first playoff victory. That's all he got though.
 
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