THE PAC 12 THREAD v.5

[TheDayMan]

Probably the same thing I did. Rated wazzy's post funny.

So did @Vitamike but he wasn't named. Probably because he's a Bruin and already shit listed by everyone.

No, it's because dayman must know my rating was a self deprecating one. Them Bruins only can claim a share a Single National Title themselves.
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The Ironic thing is every other school that has a unified NT, claims every share they have as a whole too, and one LA school, I wont mention any names, claims a shared NT as a whole when they agreed they would only recognize the BCS Title that year as the only NT winner.

Nah, he just hadn't rated it yet when I said something. He's on there...

 

[Vitamike]

The BSC system kept having to change every year because it was very flawed and one of them was keeping USC out that year so yeah gonna keep recognizing it as do many.

The son of an Engineer, I can probably get too technical at times.

Black and White, it was the agreed rules at the time, just like the many years a PAC Champ wasn't allowed to go to the RB. (And I'm not even talking about last year. )

Just like the Bruins split title year, as PAC Champs that year, they were not allowed as No 2 in the country to play No. 1 Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, instead USC lost to the Buckeyes as they got the bid with the second best record in the PAC.

What a lousy Rose Bowl rule that was, pitting No. 1 vs No. 17, instead of No. 1 vs No. 2, and ending the year with yet another, in this case legit, split title instead.

Who knows the outcome had the two top teams been allowed to play, just like the year that SC could have played OU or LSU (Forget who was ranked higher that year)

 

[Vitamike]

Nah, he just hadn't rated it yet when I said something. He's on there...

It's that time of year anyhow!

 

[socaljim242]

The son of an Engineer, I can probably get too technical at times.

Black and White, it was the agreed rules at the time, just like the many years a PAC Champ wasn't allowed to go to the RB. (And I'm not even talking about last year. )

Just like the Bruins split title year, as PAC Champs that year, they were not allowed as No 2 in the country to play No. 1 Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, instead USC lost to the Buckeyes as they got the bid with the second best record in the PAC.

What a lousy Rose Bowl rule that was, pitting No. 1 vs No. 17, instead of No. 1 vs No. 2, and ending the year with yet another, in this case legit, split title instead.

Who knows the outcome had the two top teams been allowed to play, just like the year that SC could have played OU or LSU (Forget who was ranked higher that year)

I don't want to get all into the details but USC was #1 in both polls and won its last game and OU got trashed in its conference title game and and because of rules coaches were forced to vote for OU. LSU and USC were the two best teams.

 

[WizardHawk]

ahhh, the sounds of bitter rivalry on the hoop.

Must be getting close to the season starting.

 

[Vitamike]

I don't want to get all into the details but USC was #1 in both polls and won its last game and OU got trashed in its conference title game and and because of rules coaches were forced to vote for OU. LSU and USC were the two best teams.

And that's why I mentioned them in my post you quoted.

just like the year that SC could have played OU or LSU (Forget who was ranked higher that year)

 

[trojanfan12]

Pete signed the agreement, as with all D1 coaches for their respective schools, & SC recognizes the AP as a split title with LSU, is this wrong?

Is what wrong? Recognizing the title. No, it isn't. It's a legit organization that has been naming NC's for decades and was one of the only ones included in the previous system. Additionally, unlike the coaches, they were not required to vote the winner of the BCS game as their champion. They could actually vote on who they though the best team was.

And again, what does Pete Carroll have to do with it?

 

[Vitamike]

Is what wrong? Recognizing the title. No, it isn't. It's a legit organization that has been naming NC's for decades and was one of the only ones included in the previous system. Additionally, unlike the coaches, they were not required to vote the winner of the BCS game as their champion. They could actually vote on who they though the best team was.

Nice spin tf, however the question was clear, it was obviously about the statement it was attached to.

I know your stance on recognizing the title, and we just don't agree. Stating that it was used for years has nothing to do with the BCS years outside of the fact that all D1 coaches agreed that the BCS would be the only title recognized.

And again, what does Pete Carroll have to do with it?

Again?

I told you I was playing along with Jim's post, but if you must dig, okay.

Are you saying that Pete Carrol doesn't recognize the AP title as his two recognized National Titles? I don't see him arguing that he isn't part of the Johnson & Switzer club as coaches who have both an NT and a SB to their name. (And he's clearly stated how he feels about the NT game vs OU, regardless both of those 'Title' years are listed on his Wiki page as AP titles. I don't see him making edits to that page about him)

Or are you saying that he didn't sign his name agreeing to recognize, and vote for the BCS title game winner as the unified National Title during the BCS years?

 

[trojanfan12]

Nice spin tf, however the question was clear, it was obviously about the statement it was attached to.

Is it wrong that Pete Carroll signed on to it? I have no idea. You say all P5 coaches at the time signed on to it, so I guess that's true. I don't care who did or did not sign on to it, so I never looked into it.

 

[trojanfan12]

Are you saying that Pete Carrol doesn't recognize the AP title as his two recognized National Titles?

I don't know what he does or does not recognize. I've never heard him talk about it. I know USC recognizes it for him as do many organizations when listing his accomplishments,

 

[Vitamike]

I don't know what he does or does not recognize. I've never heard him talk about it. I know USC recognizes it for him as do many organizations when listing his accomplishments,

The BCS had many flaws but brought us some doozies!

Who can forget that Boise State v OU game?

And that Title game with SC vs Texas, what a great game! (Despite the outcome for SC fans) It's games like that title game that we would have never seen under the previous contract for sure.

Like I said earlier, the BCS/AP NT controversy, whether one agrees with the contractually bound aspects or not that year, paved the way for the 4 team playoffs we now all enjoy. Really should be six teams as far as I'm concerned, because the P5 Conferences have cornered the market with the limits of only 4 teams, and I don't think adding a week to the schedule to move to the six team format is that big of a deal in the big picture.

 

[WizardHawk]

Really, it was getting the RB to join that was the difference.

The reason UW had a split title was because we were obligated to play in the RB vs the B1G champ and not allowed to play Miami. That year lead to the BCS and it was getting the RB to let go of tradition that paved the way.

 

[SUBuddha]

Nah, he just hadn't rated it yet when I said something. He's on there...

In my defense, Emtman blew up my roommate's knee our sophomore year on questionable play, so I have a visceral reaction the mans name.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Ex-Oregon State QB Marcus McMaryion lands at Fresno State

 

[mrwallace2ku]

@AlaskaGuy …is he Barbara Hedges reincarnated with a scotum?


good gawd the PAC12 is in for a ride this year...

 

[trojanfan12]

Who can forget that Boise State v OU game?

That was a fun game.

And that Title game with SC vs Texas, what a great game! (Despite the outcome for SC fans) It's games like that title game that we would have never seen under the previous contract for sure.

Was such a great game, it didn't even bother me that USC lost.

Really should be six teams as far as I'm concerned, because the P5 Conferences have cornered the market with the limits of only 4 teams, and I don't think adding a week to the schedule to move to the six team format is that big of a deal in the big picture.

I'd like 8, but 6 works too and the top 2 seeds would be rewarded with bye's for the first round.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[Vitamike]

That was pretty cool AG!

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Bamm!!!
3-star CB Dominique Hampton (Peoria, AZ) has committed to Washington. Offers included Zona, ASU, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon St., and WSU.

Washington receiver Brayden Lenius is back, and maybe better than ever

 

[RegentDenali]

Washington receiver Brayden Lenius is back, and maybe better than ever

It's do or die year for him as a Dawg. Showed soo much potential in 2015. Got injured and got in the dawg house with the coaching staff so benched the entire 2016. 2017 is got to be the year he puts it all together and he's been shining in the spring and fall camps so far. Has all the tools and approaching TE size with that 6'5", 230 frame of his. Could be a deadly weapon for Browning this year. Go get it son.