The Officially Official Off Season Thread (2016)

[scotsman1948]

I was referencing his MLB performance in 2014 and not his AAA performance.

28 games and a 105 AB's is too little to predict what he will or will not do

 

[saddles]

28 games and a 105 AB's is too little to predict what he will or will not do

I wasn't trying to predict what he would do. That is the problem we have on here sometimes. A lot of times the original statements aren't read or they are forgotten and only the end of a discussion is read and a false interpretation is made. I started out stating that I thought Rua had indeed played up to his potential when he had the opportunity. 105 ABs was his opportunity and in my mind he made the most of it.

The following statement was made.

"He has never played up to potential in the bigs YET."

I replied that "He played up to his potential the first time he came up in 2014 and injuries prevented him from being able to show that he could do it again in 2015."

Somehow after the end of the conversation you say I am trying to predict what he will do. lol

 

[scotsman1948]

I wasn't trying to predict what he would do. That is the problem we have on here sometimes. A lot of times the original statements aren't read or they are forgotten and only the end of a discussion is read and a false interpretation is made. I started out stating that I thought Rua had indeed played up to his potential when he had the opportunity. 105 ABs was his opportunity and in my mind he made the most of it.

The following statement was made.

"He has never played up to potential in the bigs YET."

I replied that "He played up to his potential the first time he came up in 2014 and injuries prevented him from being able to show that he could do it again in 2015."

Somehow after the end of the conversation you say I am trying to predict what he will do. lol

okay my bad but i only stated that it was too little a sample to base anything on. he may play up to that just don't know

 

[jta4437]

I wasn't trying to predict what he would do. That is the problem we have on here sometimes. A lot of times the original statements aren't read or they are forgotten and only the end of a discussion is read and a false interpretation is made. I started out stating that I thought Rua had indeed played up to his potential when he had the opportunity. 105 ABs was his opportunity and in my mind he made the most of it.

The following statement was made.

"He has never played up to potential in the bigs YET."

I replied that "He played up to his potential the first time he came up in 2014 and injuries prevented him from being able to show that he could do it again in 2015."

Somehow after the end of the conversation you say I am trying to predict what he will do. lol

I think in my mind that 105 ABs is not enough ABs (vs 83 last year) to determine whether he's played to his potential at any point, whether it was then or now. And, essentially we have zero clue what Rua is going to give us going forward.

 

[saddles]

I think in my mind that 105 ABs is not enough ABs (vs 83 last year) to determine whether he's played to his potential at any point, whether it was then or now. And, essentially we have zero clue what Rua is going to give us going forward.

He only had 105 AB and I think he made the most of that limited opportunity. I was surprised that he was able to do that well in that limited opportunity. To me he played up to his potential in that short time period about as best as he could have. The idea of him being able to play up to his potential or not in the limited number of at bats was already established as a possibility before I responded. I was responding within the mindset that he did have time to show something one way or another. Whether he had time to "play up to his potential" or not is certainly worthy of discussion, but since it was implied I just went with what was presented.

That doesn't mean anything about how he would play if given the opportunity to play everyday for the next few years though. None whatsoever. He has certainly not proven one way or another what kind of big league player he can be. That is only done after several hundred at bats with consistent regular playing time. My whole idea to begin with(before the playing up to his potential talk began) was that I don't expect him to ever be able to show that here. The injury last season was really bad timing for him.

 

[Kelleyman]

I watched Rua and he has legit power and I will give you last year being a wash. He had som e improvement within first year fielding LF but I do not see him ever being an elite LF defensively due to tools. I trust FO to give those who deserve chances the chances they have earned. Obviously a guy like Gallo also did not demonstrate plate discipline but his upside is obvious.

Odor did not have it together and went back down and came back and produced. We shall see what Rua does. He will IMO have to be an overachiever as we have talent in the wings. He has and has had a legit shot. It is all on him. But regardless he may have a MLB future. He has been flexible position wise which bodes well.

Ps another guy who got it done even with injury is DDJ. Patience may be an excuse. Chris Davis We really don't know what happened

 

[saddles]

I watched Rua and he has legit power and I will give you last year being a wash. He had som e improvement within first year fielding LF but I do not see him ever being an elite LF defensively due to tools. I trust FO to give those who deserve chances the chances they have earned. Obviously a guy like Gallo also did not demonstrate plate discipline but his upside is obvious.

Odor did not have it together and went back down and came back and produced. We shall see what Rua does. He will IMO have to be an overachiever as we have talent in the wings. He has and has had a legit shot. It is all on him. But regardless he may have a MLB future. He has been flexible position wise which bodes well.

Ps another guy who got it done even with injury is DDJ. Patience may be an excuse. Chris Davis We really don't know what happened

Thad Levine said they knew what would happen with Chris Davis and they were right.

DeShields got a chance and did well with it. Too bad for him we have Brinson to replace him with as a starter in CF eventually though. Good for us, but bad for him. Although it could work out very well for him if we find a suitable trade partner sometime in the next year or so.

 

[scotsman1948]

Thad Levine said they knew what would happen with Chris Davis and they were right.

DeShields got a chance and did well with it. Too bad for him we have Brinson to replace him with as a starter in CF eventually though. Good for us, but bad for him. Although it could work out very well for him if we find a suitable trade partner sometime in the next year or so.

agree with you on DDJ. Brinson will in all likelihood be our starting CF'er in 2017 and Mazara should be our LF'er

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Winter Report Card: Rangers' off-season quiet

Gave us a B-.

 

[Kelleyman]

Winter Report Card: Rangers' off-season quiet

Gave us a B-.

Well we did our shopping last year. I think he is right LF is a concern. Josh health and age is huge. I think LF is more wide open than thought and it would be great if someone steps up internally

 

[saddles]

Well we did our shopping last year. I think he is right LF is a concern. Josh health and age is huge. I think LF is more wide open than thought and it would be great if someone steps up internally

The last I heard David Murphy is still available. lol

 

[romeo212000]

The last I heard David Murphy is still available. lol

We actually could do worse than a Murphy Ruggiano platoon.

 

[saddles]

We actually could do worse than a Murphy Ruggiano platoon.

I wouldn't mind having David back and if we didn't have as many left handed bats he might already be here.

 

[saddles]

Grant: Why the Rangers are not in the market for Dexter Fowler or Yovani Gallardo | SportsDay

"We are in the range of where we'll end up payroll-wise," is the way general manager Jon Daniels put it Wednesday.

 

[Kelleyman]

We need premium defensive outfielders especially in CF. Thwt is not what the Rangers outfield was last year. Most of the infield including Carcher as well was not elite be any standards. We can talk platoons and I know Mazara is on the roster and Brinson is not but if we pick up another outfielder which now looks like it can only be a minor league contract IMO, it surely won't be an overpriced good guy with an average arm and can't climb the wall no matter how clutch he once was at the plate against RHP. Fan favorite does not get you to the post season.

Josh is reportedly still having injury concerns. So in the meanwhile I suspect we wait it out to see how desperate Stubbs becomes. BTW we would have lost some games without his defense. I have no ideas what can of defense Jones the pickup from Seattle can produce. I can research but I do like the eye test which is why I know from the past what some guys can and can not do. Gentry could climb a wall and plug the gap.

 

[Kelleyman]

I wouldn't mind having David back and if we didn't have as many left handed bats he might already be here.

You should have stuck with LOL

 

[saddles]

You should have stuck with LOL

If Josh wasn't here I wouldn't mind having Murphy back at all. If we found out today that Josh was going to be out for the season then I would certainly like for them to go out and sign David. As we are presently constructed he is not a good fit.

 

[saddles]

We need premium defensive outfielders especially in CF. Thwt is not what the Rangers outfield was last year. Most of the infield including Carcher as well was not elite be any standards. We can talk platoons and I know Mazara is on the roster and Brinson is not but if we pick up another outfielder which now looks like it can only be a minor league contract IMO, it surely won't be an overpriced good guy with an average arm and can't climb the wall no matter how clutch he once was at the plate against RHP. Fan favorite does not get you to the post season.

Josh is reportedly still having injury concerns. So in the meanwhile I suspect we wait it out to see how desperate Stubbs becomes. BTW we would have lost some games without his defense. I have no ideas what can of defense Jones the pickup from Seattle can produce. I can research but I do like the eye test which is why I know from the past what some guys can and can not do. Gentry could climb a wall and plug the gap.

We are going with DeShields for now and if his defense isn't good enough then maybe he can make up for it on offense. The defense is what it is. There is a reason why Stubbs is still unemployed. Guys who are all defense and who can't hit a lick are just not that much in demand.

 

[saddles]

West Notes: Segura, Lee, Rangers, Angels

As Grant explains, that’s a somewhat diplomatic way of stating that the team doesn’t have the financial flexibility to add a notable free agent such as Dexter Fowler or Yovani Gallardo at this point. Rather, Grant lists Tim Lincecum and Gavin Floyd as a pair of names that might make more sense for the Rangers to pursue as Spring Training approaches and the team looks for added depth.

“The fact is,” according to Grant, that Daniels was given a budget and told to stick to it, so barring a late change of course among ownership, the Rangers will be relatively quiet for the remainder of the offseason.

 

[saddles]

More Josh Morgan to catcher buzz.