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The Cowboys' vaunted O-line is in shambles

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How come ZERO Centers made it if their so important. 5 Tackles, some Guards and ZERO Centers. Holds a lot of water.
How come only 2 LTs made it if they are so important? I'm guessing a lot more RBs and WRs made it
 

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Isn't CHaz Green the dude that let Adrian Clayborn get 6 sacks in a game last season?
 

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Isn't CHaz Green the dude that let Adrian Clayborn get 6 sacks in a game last season?
Only because he was benched. Might have been 9!!!

Chad Green stinks. The Cowboys should just move him to Center.







:kidding:
 

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OK probably but it would be a huge hit cause Zeke is a 2000 yard back... Morris ain’t close to that.

But answer my question. Are QB and DE more important then Kickers, Punters and return men?
Sure but that has nothing to do with where they are drafted.
 

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Sure but that has nothing to do with where they are drafted.

OK, thanks for answering.

So QBs, Tackles, DT, DEs, CBs, LBs, Gs, WRs, RBs, TEs, Safety ALL have been chosen in the top 12 dozens and dozens of times over the last 50 year.

Punters, Kickers, and Return Men have NOT been drafted in the top 12 in the last 50 years.

That tells me that GM's place more value on QB/T/G/CB/LB/WR/TE/RB then Punter, Kicker and Return Men.

Guess what the ONE OTHER position in football that hasnt gone in the top 12 in 50 years

Every single position has been taken in the top 12 over the last 50 years except Kicker, Punter, Return men (which you admitted were less important) but the ONLY position that hasnt gone in the top 12 is Center and you're trying to tell me that one position has never gone early, WHILE EVERY OTHER POSITION HAS is strictly coincidental... but for some reason its different with Center as compared to K,P, Return Men.

Its patently and painfully obvious
 

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OK, thanks for answering.

So QBs, Tackles, DT, DEs, CBs, LBs, Gs, WRs, RBs, TEs, Safety ALL have been chosen in the top 12 dozens and dozens of times over the last 50 year.

Punters, Kickers, and Return Men have NOT been drafted in the top 12 in the last 50 years.

That tells me that GM's place more value on QB/T/G/CB/LB/WR/TE/RB then Punter, Kicker and Return Men.

Guess what the ONE OTHER position in football that hasnt gone in the top 12 in 50 years

Every single position has been taken in the top 12 over the last 50 years except Kicker, Punter, Return men (which you admitted were less important) but the ONLY position that hasnt gone in the top 12 is Center and you're trying to tell me that one position has never gone early, WHILE EVERY OTHER POSITION HAS is strictly coincidental... but for some reason its different with Center as compared to K,P, Return Men.

Its patently and painfully obvious
tedd ginn was basically a return his first few years......
 

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tedd ginn was basically a return his first few years......

They drafted him to be a game breaking WR.

Every single position has been drafted dozens of time in the last 50 year in the top 12... EVERY!
Except Kicker, Punter and Center.

Think about that and let it marinate.
 

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They drafted him to be a game breaking WR.

Every single position has been drafted dozens of time in the last 50 year in the top 12... EVERY!
Except Kicker, Punter and Center.

Think about that and let it marinate.
you twist shit period, your facts are your opinions, think about it
 

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you twist shit period, your facts are your opinions, think about it

What did I twist? That was simple, clear and concise and the fact that it made a ton of sense you had to come back with “You twist shit”. Nothing was twisted bro.
 

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What did I twist? That was simple, clear and concise and the fact that it made a ton of sense you had to come back with “You twist shit”. Nothing was twisted bro.
no u twist shit bro. you say centers arent important. BUt your basis is on the draft. THen its on what you perceive GM"s think. either way perhaps they are important , but easier to find, hence their lack of drafting high......

things can be important but prevalent...........stew on it, think about it, twist it
 

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What did I twist? That was simple, clear and concise and the fact that it made a ton of sense you had to come back with “You twist shit”. Nothing was twisted bro.
Well first off you combine LT and RT into Tackles to make it seem like more. But that is disingenuous because there are two starting Tackles and only one starting center. So not only are there twice as many, but some teams have twice as many backups too. There are also twice as many players starting at T at major programs than there are centers so it increases the pool of available players too. If you are a team like Dallas (assuming Frederick recovers) you only draft a center once every 12 years.
 

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Isn't CHaz Green the dude that let Adrian Clayborn get 6 sacks in a game last season?

Yes. Yes he is. He is still employed by Dallas.
 

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Yes. Yes he is. He is still employed by Dallas.

Clayborn only got 3 sacks in the other 15 games combined.

If he's starting, I don't like Dallas's chances.
 

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shambles the eagle fan say's. Sound the alarms.....:dhd:

Dak: Holy shit I see Chaz Green out there at OT!

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3 LT's and 2 RT's. 5 tackles and ZERO Centers.
You try to use that as meaningful and as proving your point. So then explain why there are 3 LTs, 14 WRs and 10 RBs in the top 100. You said LT is the 2nd or 3rd most important position. Please explain why there are 11 more WRs in the top 100 and 7 more RBs.

You can't without killing your argument, so you ignore it or twist it.
 

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Well first off you combine LT and RT into Tackles to make it seem like more. But that is disingenuous because there are two starting Tackles and only one starting center. So not only are there twice as many, but some teams have twice as many backups too. There are also twice as many players starting at T at major programs than there are centers so it increases the pool of available players too. If you are a team like Dallas (assuming Frederick recovers) you only draft a center once every 12 years.

You have a point. There are a lot more tackles. Still everyone comes up with personal opinions and I used tons of examples from different sources.

Again... maybe only a few Tackles were selected but ZERO Centers made the list.
 

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Clayborn only got 3 sacks in the other 15 games combined.

If he's starting, I don't like Dallas's chances.
Not only is he not starting, he isn't even likely to make the team. Unless you are talking about the preseason game tonight which he still won't likely start unless Dallas sits both Tackles.
 

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You try to use that as meaningful and as proving your point. So then explain why there are 3 LTs, 14 WRs and 10 RBs in the top 100. You said LT is the 2nd or 3rd most important position. Please explain why there are 11 more WRs in the top 100 and 7 more RBs.

You can't without killing your argument, so you ignore it or twist it.

I don’t ignore anything or twist anything. The reason there are a ton of WR and a TON of RBs is because they are more important then a position like Center who had ZERO!
Maybe cause there are a lot more WRs and RBs the Centers. See I used your argument. 3 receivers on a team and 1 LT.
 
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