The 2023-2024 NBA Season

[shopson67]

Doesn't matter what he does...he sucks.

@The Q said so.

I find it entertaining that an hour in the gym, then 2 1 hour sessions on the court during the offseason is considered commitment. He's a professional athlete, that should be the baseline IMO. Certainly not Kobe-esque.

 

[shopson67]

This isn’t a king’s ransom for a guy who was 21 and 10 last year. People are irrational here with their hatred of Harden. In fact, the only group of fans here who have a better PG than Harden are the Celtics fans or the girls basketball writer because Holiday is a two way player and Halliburton is an up and comer . Harden would be the best option at PG on the Lakers, the Clippers, the Wizards, the Heat, the Knicks, the Raptors, the Warriors and yes even the Sixers.

He's closer to Chris Paul value at this point, who netted a 2nd rounder in 2027, a top 20 protected 1st in 2030, Poole's questionable contract and Baldwin/Rollins. Sure Harden has more left in his career, but the likelihood of that being with the team that acquires him is a shot in the dark at this point.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I find it entertaining that an hour in the gym, then 2 1 hour sessions on the court during the offseason is considered commitment. He's a professional athlete, that should be the baseline IMO. Certainly not Kobe-esque.

Nope.

 

[DJ Fieri]

He's closer to Chris Paul value at this point, who netted a 2nd rounder in 2027, a top 20 protected 1st in 2030, Poole's questionable contract and Baldwin/Rollins. Sure Harden has more left in his career, but the likelihood of that being with the team that acquires him is a shot in the dark at this point.

Very good point.

 

[shopson67]

He’s much better than DeAngelo Russell. Agreed?

He would need to be at least twice as good as DLo. DLo also waived his no trade clause and has worked hard this offseason and is playing great with the Lakers in preseason. He's not a malcontent fighting for every stripper-destined dollar.

 

[shopson67]

Wow. You would be a shit GM. You can always dump Harden. Why would you even consider that as more than a last resort? Why would you consider that now when at a minimum $35 million of expiring salary has more value at the deadline. When did your team finally trade Russ? Deadline.

How much better would the Lakers have been last year had they moved on sooner? At least in the regular season? They likely would have had Turner to help with the Nuggets in the WCF and a 3 point shooter that wouldn't be in danger of the doghouse (Hield instead of Beasley).

If you're good with risking the fat suit, waiting might get a better offer, sure.

 

[shopson67]

How many title contenders have been that weak at pg?

How many title contenders have two stars that are constant injury concerns? Do you consider the Clips title contenders with or without Harden?

 

[fightinfunbags]

With Bones and RW they do not need Harden.

Bwahahaha!

 

[fightinfunbags]

At one time he was. But honestly, I'd rather have D-Lo right now. He has a similar history of coming up small in the playoffs, including this past season. But at least there's little to no drama with him and he's still young enough to turn around his playoff performance.

Homer talk.

 

[shopson67]

Homer talk.

Call it what you want. I want no part of Harden ever being a Laker.

 

[DJ Fieri]

At one time he was. But honestly, I'd rather have D-Lo right now. He has a similar history of coming up small in the playoffs, including this past season. But at least there's little to no drama with him and he's still young enough to turn around his playoff performance.

Yeah....Harden is better but why deal with the drama Harden brings for a slight upgrade?

 

[fightinfunbags]

How much better would the Lakers have been last year had they moved on sooner? At least in the regular season? They likely would have had Turner to help with the Nuggets in the WCF and a 3 point shooter that wouldn't be in danger of the doghouse (Hield instead of Beasley).

If you're good with risking the fat suit, waiting might get a better offer, sure.

The only way you got back the pieces that you did because it was at the deadline. That kind of deal wasn’t out there to be had preseason.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Call it what you want. I want no part of Harden ever being a Laker.

That’s fine but he’s not even close to the same player Harden is.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Yeah....Harden is better but why deal with the drama Harden brings for a slight upgrade?

Slight upgrade?

 

[DJ Fieri]

Slight upgrade?

Yep.

One is 27. The other is 34.

If you think JH repeats that double double this season....you're high.

 

[Wamu]

Homer talk.

Wow.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Yep.

One is 27. The other is 34.

If you think JH repeats that double double this season....you're high.

He doesn’t have to be 21/10 to be much better than DLo. We saw what it looks like when DLo tries to run a team.

 

[DJ Fieri]

He doesn’t have to be 21/10 to be much better than DLo. We saw what it looks like when DLo tries to run a team.

Russell doesn't need to run a team when Bron is his teammate

 

[shopson67]

That’s fine but he’s not even close to the same player Harden is.

Nope. He re-signed for less money and gave up his no-trade clause to stay with the Lakers. Harden has pushed his way off multiple teams via pouting and leverage, opted back in this season only because the money wasn't out there for him in free agency, then demanded a trade when not given the bag on an extension.

If Harden wasn't a Sixer, you'd be hating the shit out him.

 

[shopson67]

He doesn’t have to be 21/10 to be much better than DLo. We saw what it looks like when DLo tries to run a team.

They make it to the WCF?