The 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[SteelersPride]

I like him a lot, actually. His issue, imo, is that his style will get him hurt at the next level so you might only get 2-5 years out of him.

He is a top tier 'trick stick' player. CEH can muster a lot of strength with his legs and has really quick feet. That gives him elite lateral agility, elite trucking, and a good spin move. Elijah Holyfield had a Vert of 29" while CEH has a Vert of 39.5". Thats comparing bottom tier explosiveness to top tier explosiveness.

I think once you get outside of the top 50 picks then he is a possibility. I like him for the Chiefs. He is lacking the ability to hit the home run with a long run that exists on almost every other player on the Chiefs, though, so I'm not sure he is on their radar.

I dont disagree with things, but again, time and again,RB's with that 40 time fail...on overwhelming majority fail.

 

[Clayton]

I dont disagree with things, but again, time and again,RB's with that 40 time fail...on overwhelming majority fail.

RBs in general fail.

I'm basically at the point where a 1st round grade RB should probably be drafted rd2, a 2nd round grade RB in rd3, etc.

The five guys blocking for the RB matter so much more than the 1 guy who is running with the ball.

 

[SteelersPride]

RBs in general fail.

I'm basically at the point where a 1st round grade RB should probably be drafted rd2, a 2nd round grade RB in rd3, etc.

The five guys blocking for the RB matter so much more than the 1 guy who is running with the ball.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

RBs in general fail.

I'm basically at the point where a 1st round grade RB should probably be drafted rd2, a 2nd round grade RB in rd3, etc.

The five guys blocking for the RB matter so much more than the 1 guy who is running with the ball.

I think if a college RB is thought to be a top three down back (they are good at Run, Catch & BLOCKING!) in the NFL. they are worth a top ten pick. obviously matter per team & their needs but worthy of a top ten pick.
Zeke & Barkley I wouldnt have any regrets picking in the top ten.

 

[SteelersPride]

I think if a college RB is thought to be a top three down back (they are good at Run, Catch & BLOCKING!) in the NFL. they are worth a top ten pick. obviously matter per team & their needs but worthy of a top ten pick.
Zeke & Barkley I wouldnt have any regrets picking in the top ten.

But zeke and barkley are few and far between.

Time and time again, weve seen that RB's can be plucked late or off the streets and succeed.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

But zeke and barkley are few and far between.

Time and time again, weve seen that RB's can be plucked late or off the streets and succeed.

well that is the point. You shouldnt see RBs drafted early in every draft.
Very rare that NFL people think a RB can block coming out of college.
Most RBs that ranked as one of the top RBs are usualy one trick ponies (they run great)
Might find a few that are dual threats.

Very rare they do all three well coming out of college. I agree that they shouldnt be drafted in the 1st round as often as they are, but there are those few exceptions where you will not regret it.

 

[SteelersPride]

well that is the point. You shouldnt see RBs drafted early in every draft.
Very rare that NFL people think a RB can block coming out of college.
Most RBs that ranked as one of the top RBs are usualy one trick ponies (they run great)
Might find a few that are dual threats.

Very rare they do all three well coming out of college. I agree that they shouldnt be drafted in the 1st round as often as they are, but there are those few exceptions where you will not regret it.

i agree with that. sir.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Lions Have Had Discussions About Trading Back From No. 3 Overall | NFLTradeRumors.co

 

[SteelersPride]

Lions Have Had Discussions About Trading Back From No. 3 Overall | NFLTradeRumors.co

They would be silly not to. They could possibly trade back and still land okudah, and if not still get an impact player.....they have many needs.


also more smoke keeps coming with tua to the skins, they could hold the keys to chase young

 

[Shanemansj13]

They would be silly not to. They could possibly trade back and still land okudah, and if not still get an impact player.....they have many needs.


also more smoke keeps coming with tua to the skins, they could hold the keys to chase young

Yeah I agree. I still don't get the buzz about the Skins taking Tua or trading back...really doesn't make sense. They draft Haskins in the 1st last year, traded for Kyle Allen...no way they take Tua and pass on Young imo

 

[SteelersPride]

Yeah I agree. I still don't get the buzz about the Skins taking Tua or trading back...really doesn't make sense. They draft Haskins in the 1st last year, traded for Kyle Allen...no way they take Tua and pass on Young imo

i mean look what the cards did. Its not riverboat rons guy. He knows what he has in allen, and at worst a bridge or high end back up hes comfortable with......If they are rebuilding, and think tua is it, you take him.......rosen was drafted earlier than haskins was.......

 

[HaroldSeattle]

i mean look what the cards did. Its not riverboat rons guy. He knows what he has in allen, and at worst a bridge or high end back up hes comfortable with......If they are rebuilding, and think tua is it, you take him.......rosen was drafted earlier than haskins was.......

It's possible. Can you image the domino effect that would have?

 

[SteelersPride]

It's possible. Can you image the domino effect that would have?

It would be nuts. Blow everyone's plans up. But you keep hearing it......

 

[dtgold88]

i mean look what the cards did. Its not riverboat rons guy. He knows what he has in allen, and at worst a bridge or high end back up hes comfortable with......If they are rebuilding, and think tua is it, you take him.......rosen was drafted earlier than haskins was.......

I think IF you feel you can get a QB who is clearly better than the one you have then you take him.

 

[SteelersPride]

I think IF you feel you can get a QB who is clearly better than the one you have then you take him.

yep. If hes better than what you have, you go get your guy.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I think IF you feel you can get a QB who is clearly better than the one you have then you take him.

That logic makes sense but it really depends on the situation. You have a guy you drafted in the 1st round LAST YEAR who hasn't been given much a chance yet. Also, they traded for another young QB for him to compete with. Add in the fact you are at #2 with what some say could be the best passer rusher of the last 20 years potentially and defense is still a huge need. You gotta build around the QB even if you think you have the right one...the Skins have a long way to go in that regard.

 

[Shanemansj13]

yep. If hes better than what you have, you go get your guy.

Tua doesn't seem like the guy that is "there is no doubt this guy is the real deal" especially with those injury concerns and rumors he failed his physical miserably.

 

[Clayton]

All signs point to Tua tumbling pretty hard, tbh.

I've generally been under the assumption that he'll go #2 or late rd1. My guess at this point is late rd1 is as early as he can go. This pretty much takes 'trading down' off the table.

I could see the Lions trading down if there is a market for Justin Herbert. I think the idea of there being a market for Herbert is a little silly but it could be a thing.

 

[SteelersPride]

Tua doesn't seem like the guy that is "there is no doubt this guy is the real deal" especially with those injury concerns and rumors he failed his physical miserably.

where did u hear he failed his physical miserably. All ive heard is medical reports are better than expected? Injuries are the concern.......But as a player, he was the "tank for Tua"......

 

[Shanemansj13]

where did u hear he failed his physical miserably. All ive heard is medical reports are better than expected? Injuries are the concern.......But as a player, he was the "tank for Tua"......

Ex-NFL executive: Alabama QB Tua Tagovailoa is ‘brittle,’ flunked team physical

This is just one source, many others though. Sounds like it was one team, could have been more