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Okay, I'm joining my future brother-in-law's keeper league and taking over the worst team out of a 12 team league. Never been in a keeper league before and they allow 2 players to keep being the first two picks of your draft (in two weeks).

Rules for the league

Roster: QB, QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R, W/R/T, K, DEF, D, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

QBs: 0.25 pts per completion, 1 pt per 50 yards.

0.5 pts per reception

Everything else is pretty standard from what I can tell.

Roster I'm taking over


Marlon Brown
Michael Crabtree
Andy Dalton
Jimmy Graham
Rob Gronkowski
Percy Harvin
Chris Ivory
Vincent Jackson
Brandon LaFell
Dexter McCluster
Rashard Mendenhall
Heath Miller
DeMarco Murray
Cordarrelle Patterson
Stevan Ridley
Emmanuel Sanders
Russell Wilson

Nick Novak

Seattle

Kiko Alonso


I'm thinking I'll keep DeMarco Murray and Jimmy Graham, but since I've never been in a keeper league, I wanted to check to see what you guys thought. Little iffy about taking a TE that high, but considering Graham is more of a WR anyway, it may be worth it, especially in a PPR.
 

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Until I saw Murray, I was thinking to double up the TE spot and keep Graham and Gronk... but you gotta keep Murray. So I think you got it right.
 

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Graham and Murray IMO. Murray also catches a lot of passes, and he'll catch even more with Linehan as the O-coordinator.
 

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I know this sounds crazy. But I would keep Andy dalton and graham


12 teams and a 2 qb league. That is tough!! You know some teams will draft a 3rd qb. Due to this format I am sure the top qbs will all be taken. And unless you know you draft high you will not be able to get a qb as good as dalton.
 

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I know this sounds crazy. But I would keep Andy dalton and graham


12 teams and a 2 qb league. That is tough!! You know some teams will draft a 3rd qb. Due to this format I am sure the top qbs will all be taken. And unless you know you draft high you will not be able to get a qb as good as dalton.

That is crazy.

Dalton is not that good. Keep Murray and Graham, then draft the best available QB with your first pick (maybe the second one too, depending on who is there). You should be able to find somebody at least as good as Dalton, because I seriously doubt the top 15 QBs will all be gone in the first round.
 

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And I think you should go with the no RB strategy

If I were you(which I am not) I would keep dalton and graham

Then
First round- qb
2nd round - WR
3rd round- WR
 

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Do you know when everybody declaires their keepers? When do you find out your draft position? Lastly, you said you are allowed to keep 2; does that mean you don't have too? Reason I ask is there may be a few teams that decide to hold only one player and regardless of your draft position (if this team came in last the hopefully you pick first) they will all get a pick before you............you may end up with Dalton as your QB1 anyway......................
 

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That is crazy.

Dalton is not that good. Keep Murray and Graham, then draft the best available QB with your first pick (maybe the second one too, depending on who is there). You should be able to find somebody at least as good as Dalton, because I seriously doubt the top 15 QBs will all be gone in the first round.

I know we all don't like dalton. But he still was a top 5 qb last year. And as long as he has Aj green he will remain a good fantasy qb. Sometimes real life sucky players are actually near elite fantasy players. Dalton seems to be the poster boy for this.

I just don't like Murray as a keeper for him, I don't think it gives him any advantage.
 

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Do you know when everybody declaires their keepers? When do you find out your draft position? Lastly, you said you are allowed to keep 2; does that mean you don't have too? Reason I ask is there may be a few teams that decide to hold only one player and regardless of your draft position (if this team came in last the hopefully you pick first) they will all get a pick before you............you may end up with Dalton as your QB1 anyway......................

But if he keeps dalton and drafts a qb in the first round he will have 2 top 20 qbs. That will be a good advantage to at least 4 teams. And probably even more depending on how good the qb he gets in the first round. By not taking a qb and if he takes Murray. He will be behind the 8 ball in both qb and in RB. Why not give himself an advantage somewhere
 

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But if he keeps dalton and drafts a qb in the first round he will have 2 top 20 qbs. That will be a good advantage to at least 4 teams. And probably even more depending on how good the qb he gets in the first round. By not taking a qb and if he takes Murray. He will be behind the 8 ball in both qb and in RB. Why not give himself an advantage somewhere
Wouldn't that depend on who is being kept and where he drafts? In my keeper the deadline is midnight the Friday before the draft and you do not have to keep 2. If that's the case he may be able to upgrade on Dalton as (if this is the way his league is) he would have the first pick of the supplimental draft (round 2).
 

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Milk. Dalton had all his points in a handful of weeks. And he was dreadful otherwise! How can you justify saying you would keep Dalton in a keep-2, 12 team league, but throw back Cam in a keep-4, 18 team? Yeah this one is a two QB league, but his chances of getting two in the draft of Dalton's value is not only probable, but almost absolute.
 

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Milk. Dalton had all his points in a handful of weeks. And he was dreadful otherwise! How can you justify saying you would keep Dalton in a keep-2, 12 team league, but throw back Cam in a keep-4, 18 team? Yeah this one is a two QB league, but his chances of getting two in the draft of Dalton's value is not only probable, but almost absolute.

I originally said drop Cam. But i stopped saying that after my first post. Kept on saying I don't like cam but understand why he has to be kept.

And if he keeps dalton and drafts a qb in the first round, his best case scenario would be that dalton is his qb2, the worst case is that he will get a low end number 2 qb. But the chances are he will have 2 top 16 qbs. I would take that any day in a 2 qb 12 team league.

Much better than keeping the 12 best RB(gives no advantage) who seems to be injury prone.
I just think he should give himself as many advantages as possible.
 

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But how is Dalton an advantage? Four games of single digit points...and one with 11. That's almost half a fantasy season. Murray is a top 12 back...how is that not helpful? I think the "advantage" thing is getting blown out of proportion. Everyone has ads and disads.
 

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Did not realize how low both dalton and Wilson are ranked going into this season.
 

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keep gronk and jimmy


you will easily have the top 2 players at 1 position. not many teams in last place can say that can they
 

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keep gronk and jimmy


you will easily have the top 2 players at 1 position. not many teams in last place can say that can they

I like this move. Much more than keeping Murray. I would still keep dalton over gronk. But if as the owner you think you can do better in the qb category, then it's worth the gamble. But be careful. Owners will take a 3rd qb early on in this format. I wouldn't be surprised if 32 qbs are taken before round 10.
 

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I like this move. Much more than keeping Murray. I would still keep dalton over gronk. But if as the owner you think you can do better in the qb category, then it's worth the gamble. But be careful. Owners will take a 3rd qb early on in this format. I wouldn't be surprised if 32 qbs are taken before round 10.

Again, crazy.

Gronk is awesome, but why fill your flex spot with a TE before taking an RB?

Murray is higher on every draft board I have seen and his value is enhanced in a PPR format. He is a legit first round pick here, Gronk is not.

Talk about putting yourself at a disadvantage, keeping 2 TEs when you will already be forced to spend 1 or 2 early picks on a QB is a tremendously risky play. Your WRs and RBs would end up being pretty awful.
 

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A couplr things. Since he finished last i will assume he is drafting first so this guy really has 3 keepers if he wanted.

In this format you start 5 guys before you hit the flex.

Rb/rb. Wr/wr. Wr/rb flex. Then wr/rb/te flex. So you will be throwing jimmy out there against a weak te. advantage you. Then you will be throwing gronk who if healthy is a wr1 against another guys 6th best offensive player. Double advantage for you

Your also keeping a team from getting a top notch player in a position that is limited.
 
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Again, crazy.

Gronk is awesome, but why fill your flex spot with a TE before taking an RB?

Murray is higher on every draft board I have seen and his value is enhanced in a PPR format. He is a legit first round pick here, Gronk is not.

Talk about putting yourself at a disadvantage, keeping 2 TEs when you will already be forced to spend 1 or 2 early picks on a QB is a tremendously risky play. Your WRs and RBs would end up being pretty awful.


fine, he is higher, but if you take him you are at a distinct disadvantage at WR and RB no matter what... Lets just say he keeps murray and Graham(we all agree he keeps Graham). then he must draft a QB in the next 2 rounds and then he would have to Draft a WR right away too... So the RB 2 will be at best in the 4th round after keepers... That is saying that He will most likely have a very weak RB 2... So then he will Have a weak RB 1 and a weak RB 2... and still have weak WRs and QB... Only Graham at TE will be a strength... Compare him to the rest of the teams and he is at a distinct disadvantage... If he Keeps Dalton or Wilson, then first round draft the best QB available, he will now be strong at QB and TE, and he can still have decent WRs- by drafting weak in RB he can Be strong everywhere except RB, and then he can get RBs like lamar miller and Steven Ridley(for the start of the season) and load up on High potential guys...

I see this to be his best shot to be successful...

If he keeps Gronk and Graham then he has one of his flex set(and that flex will be better than most other teams- and will significantly weaken other teams at the TE position).

Either way, I see this to be the perfect opportunity to draft with the NO RB strategy... I just think Murray as the number one will give the team no big strengths, and really no appeal...

I know, you guys don't like the no RB strategy, but I honestly think that this is his best route...
 
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