Sportshoopla Poll Week 9 DISCUSSION thread

[Chewbaccer]

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Sportshoopla Poll Week 9 VOTING thread

 

[Chewbaccer]

16. Michigan Wake Forest

I'm assuming this is just Michigan since Wake is ranked lower in your poll?

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

I'm assuming this is just Michigan since Wake is ranked lower in your poll?

Yes.

Thanks got catching that.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

LSU has wins over Texas, Florida, and Auburn. Hard not to have them #1

 

[Chewbaccer]

LSU has wins over Texas, Florida, and Auburn. Hard not to have them #1

Probably safe to leave Texas off that list now.

But Ohio State is just flat out murdering everyone they face. LSU might have the best resume, and if they beat Bama, I might think about putting them at the top, but Ohio State is miles ahead of everyone in the eye test department.

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

Probably safe to leave Texas off that list now.

But Ohio State is just flat out murdering everyone they face. LSU might have the best resume, and if they beat Bama, I might think about putting them at the top, but Ohio State is miles ahead of everyone in the eye test department.

Ohio State is by far the most complete team.

 

[bamagrad75]

Who's turn is it to bring the snacks if old guy shows up?

 

[78Cyclones]

@Chewbaccer If we do not hear from @iowajerms by Tuesday, I will tally the rankings.

 

[fishinabarrel]

@Chewbaccer If we do not hear from @iowajerms by Tuesday, I will tally the rankings.

And send out a search party

 

[78Cyclones]

And send out a search party

Per a post I read a few weeks ago, his father was very ill - so I assume he is dealing with family matters. Hope that's not the case. Either way, I hope he is well and comes back here soon.

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

Who's turn is it to bring the snacks if old guy shows up?

I’m in this thread!

No I’m not!

Yes I am!

 

[ralphiewvu]

 

[Yo Tee]

Probably safe to leave Texas off that list now.

But Ohio State is just flat out murdering everyone they face. LSU might have the best resume, and if they beat Bama, I might think about putting them at the top, but Ohio State is miles ahead of everyone in the eye test department.

They've really only faced 1 good team and saying Wisconsin is a good team right now might be a stretch. LSU has wins over Auburn and Florida, 2 top 15 teams right now.

 

[Yo Tee]

It should really be...

1a. LSU
1b. Ohio State

Then the field.

 

[Chewbaccer]

They've really only faced 1 good team and saying Wisconsin is a good team right now might be a stretch. LSU has wins over Auburn and Florida, 2 top 15 teams right now.

If you're ranking solely on resume, LSU is your top team, if you're ranking best teams, OSU looks like the best team.

 

[Smart]

LSU has wins over Texas, Florida, and Auburn. Hard not to have them #1

There is probably an argument for them to be #1, but I hate this attitude. The only reason they have wins over those schools is that they scheduled games against those schools. The #1 team should be determined by who has looked the best on the field, not who managed to schedule the best.

Having LSU #1 is totally defensible, and one can make a strong claim that they are the #1 team in America. However, it shouldn't just be because of their schedule. For me personally, I think Alabama and Ohio State have looked like they would have been more dominant playing LSU's schedule, so I have them above LSU. It was actually pretty easy for me to not have them #1.

 

[Smart]

The ranking for every team lower than #13 felt absurdly high based on what they have shown on the field. Maybe it is just perception and misremembering past years, but I sure felt like everyone's resume sort of sucked for how high they were ranked.

 

[Yo Tee]

The only reason they have wins over those schools is that they scheduled games against those schools.

Umm...that's usually how it works. Sorry but Alabama beating teams that are a combined 25-39 doesn't get my top vote. A team that has beaten 2 top 15 teams this year, they deserve it because they've beaten MUCH tougher opponents. Of course Alabama is going to look good against teams that suck dick. Just for some perspective:

LSU opponents records: 32-29, wins over 2 ranked teams (team that had the best record: Florida (7-1))
Ohio State opponents records: 36-26, wins over 2 ranked teams (team that had the best record: Cincinnati (7-1))
Alabama opponents records: 25-39 wins over 0 ranked teams (team that had the best record: Texas A&M (5-3))
Clemson opponents records: 30-33, wins over 0 ranked teams (team that has the best record: Louisville and Texas A&M (5-3))

Yeah, according to the final scores, Alabama looks great, but you have to take into consideration their competition. LSU and Ohio State look pretty damn good and they have played MUCH MUCH MUCH superior teams than Bama. Clemson only have 1 game scheduled against a ranked team and that's Wake Forest. Bama will have LSU and MAYBE Auburn. LSU will have Florida, Auburn and Bama. Ohio State will have Wisconsin, Cincinnati, Penn State and Michigan. Sorry but Alabama doesn't deserve to be #1 in any shape, way or form and the AP voters have realized that as well.

 

[Smart]

Umm...that's usually how it works. Sorry but Alabama beating teams that are a combined 25-39 doesn't get my top vote. A team that has beaten 2 top 15 teams this year, they deserve it because they've beaten MUCH tougher opponents. Of course Alabama is going to look good against teams that suck dick. Just for some perspective:

LSU opponents records: 32-29, wins over 2 ranked teams (team that had the best record: Florida (7-1))
Ohio State opponents records: 36-26, wins over 2 ranked teams (team that had the best record: Cincinnati (7-1))
Alabama opponents records: 25-39 wins over 0 ranked teams (team that had the best record: Texas A&M (5-3))
Clemson opponents records: 30-33, wins over 0 ranked teams (team that has the best record: Louisville and Texas A&M (5-3))

Yeah, according to the final scores, Alabama looks great, but you have to take into consideration their competition. LSU and Ohio State look pretty damn good and they have played MUCH MUCH MUCH superior teams than Bama. Clemson only have 1 game scheduled against a ranked team and that's Wake Forest. Bama will have LSU and MAYBE Auburn. LSU will have Florida, Auburn and Bama. Ohio State will have Wisconsin, Cincinnati, Penn State and Michigan. Sorry but Alabama doesn't deserve to be #1 in any shape, way or form and the AP voters have realized that as well.

You have in essence made the primary factor in who should be #1 the actions of athletic directors and conference schedulers, not the quality of play of the players. How on Earth does that make any sense?

The question shouldn't be who has "looked good" against the "better" teams. The question is who is the best team that has shown the most on the field.

I'm not saying that a 24-10 win over the #85 team is better than a 21-20 win over the #2 team. I agree that you have to take Alabama's competition into account. It's just that when I do that, and when I look at the talent of their players and coaches and what they have proven this year on the field, I see them as being better than LSU. Considering Alabama will likely be a 7-10 point favorite over LSU, it appears that I am hardly alone.

 

[Wild Turkey]

They've really only faced 1 good team and saying Wisconsin is a good team right now might be a stretch. LSU has wins over Auburn and Florida, 2 top 15 teams right now.

tOSU beat Cincinnati therefore no valid argument for them not being #1.