Sorting teams in the NHL standings - continued

[Ho_Brah]

It is what it is. I accept the way the league is run. Never question the all mighty Bettman, or he will find you
















and fondle you.

 

[elocomotive]

A smart fan will look at games played and realize "Well, we're 3 points behind Team A, but we have 2 games in hand, so we could effectively make up that ground". If a fan doesn't feel like doing that research...well, who cares.

Most fans are looking at just a couple of teams anyway. Like as a Caps' fan, I'm pretty much just seeing where we are in relation to Tampa Bay and a couple of teams like the Habs and Rangers. Like you said, it doesn't matter until the end anyway.

The poster seems to have an agenda. It's not right or wrong. Both are imperfect since there is no true way to know the actual standings unless every team has the same number of games, which never happens in baseball, hockey, and basketball until the end of the year.

 

[davnlaguna]

If you really need to do it the other way go to
NHL.com team stats and sort by % points and you can have it your way.

Team Stats - 2010-2011 - Regular Season - Summary - Point Percentage - NHL.com - Stats

 

[buffhockey]

Jeff, if you go strictly by points, then you effectively make a loss the same as not playing. So when comparing 13-12-0 vs. 12-10-0, you are really comparing 13-0-0 vs. 12-0-0.

Why should the detrimental value of the losses be ignored?

Just wait until the end of the season when all teams have 82 games played. The standing are a nice reference point until April 10, 2011.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Not to play devils advocate here, I do not hate our current system.

BUT, I do think Soccer got this one right. My proposal is to combine both with awarding 3 points to the winner. And then Overtime should maybe share the 3 points. 2 to the winner, 1 for the loser.

Honestly it sounded good when I thought of it but now that I am typing, i do not remember what I was going for.

 

[SLY]

Not to play devils advocate here, I do not hate our current system.

BUT, I do think Soccer got this one right. My proposal is to combine both with awarding 3 points to the winner. And then Overtime should maybe share the 3 points. 2 to the winner, 1 for the loser.

Honestly it sounded good when I thought of it but now that I am typing, i do not remember what I was going for.

Thats the olympic point system.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Thats the olympic point system.

aka the olympic point system. I just had soccer on my mind, but yes, you are correct.

 

[Automattic]

How about you all just get pissed when Lidstrom hoists the Cup? :p

 

[beantownmaniac]

Hey, as long as you guys are in the mood to answer questions, how come there aren't first downs or field goals in hockey? And why aren't there any bases to skate to? And why don't they have different sticks like golfers have clubs?

 

[beantownmaniac]

How about you all just get pissed when Lidstrom hoists the Cup? :p

What, is he gonna be nice enough to hand it to Chara so him and the Bruins can skate around with it after they win it?

 

[SLY]

isnt that sweet of him.

 

[Automattic]

lol


6'9" and still not strong enough to lift that baby up...

 

[Automattic]

Jeff doesn't get his name on the Cup if you win though. He wasn't aquired in time...

 

[Automattic]

(my bad. I forgot.)

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Yes. Either way you do it is imperfect. (1) You can rank teams by the points they actually have, but not account for the games they have yet to play. (2) You can rank teams by their overall winning percentage, which puts teams ahead of others that have yet to earn them and bases it on their likelihood to win games based on their record. Either way has flaws - it's bird in hand vs. the ones in the bush. You seem unable to recognize that.

LOL... This answer is WAY too good for this thread.

 

[davnlaguna]

What, is he gonna be nice enough to hand it to Chara so him and the Bruins can skate around with it after they win it?

So once Lidstrom replaces Bettman, then the Bruins will win? Will Chara be skaking on crutches by then?

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

What, is he gonna be nice enough to hand it to Chara so him and the Bruins can skate around with it after they win it?

Lets see if you guys can get by Pronger & Co. first. Last time didn't turn out so well.

 

[beantownmaniac]

Lets see if you guys can get by Pronger & Co. first. Last time didn't turn out so well.

Oh yeah!!! FUCK THE FLYERS!!!

 

[maddogmark25]

 

[Darkstone42]

The only way that point totals for teams before they've played 82 games matter is the way that will impact how many points they have after having played 82 games. The record at the end of the season is the only one that matters until the post season starts, and then the only thing that matters is who gets to 16 first.