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is it really a mess like overhaul mess? They haven't been near as good but I don't see mess.

No disrespect manster, maybe the problem is not playing the best five at certain points and times.
If we have a best 5 I haven't seen it.
 

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I'll agree Jerry screwed the pooch in his "All In" BS, but does anyone believe Barkley or Henry would put up those numbers behind this OL.

RB is a major major problem here but it's far from the only issue.
Maybe not, but I sure as hell would have liked to have tried.
 

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I'll agree Jerry screwed the pooch in his "All In" BS, but does anyone believe Barkley or Henry would put up those numbers behind this OL.

RB is a major major problem here but it's far from the only issue.
Yes, pretty darn close. The Giants OL the last couple of years was worse than ours and Barkley was banged up.
Totally agree on the other issues. The thing with RB was it was cheapish to actual fix this off season. The others are not.

It's been said before. Henry 2 years $16M. His 2024 cap hit is $5M. Zeke's is $2M. So $3M more. Even if you want to use his AAV of $8M it's only $6M more.
 

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I THINK it's a no win proposition to answer any media question like asking if it's possible McCarthy stays.

no way to respond..Clown Question and a Clown would respond. Nothing to see here.
All kidding aside, I agree. What is Jerry supposed to say when asked that about his current HC? Now if he actually does extend him that would be just the height of incompetence and arrogance...but, saying he might when asked is just how it works and expected unless you do the real right thing which is just say something like "we will evaluate everyone and everything at year end and go from there" type of answer.
 

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I think they would have put up big numbers. Henry breaks tackles. Barkley is the total package. It sickens me that these two ass clowns made no offers to these two

Jeanty is the next great back to come to the NFL is my prediction. I think Jeanty will be a top 10 pick.
Jeanty is better than Bijan Robinson. Same caliber player Zeke was coming out
 

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Yes, pretty darn close. The Giants OL the last couple of years was worse than ours and Barkley was banged up.
Totally agree on the other issues. The thing with RB was it was cheapish to actual fix this off season. The others are not.

It's been said before. Henry 2 years $16M. His 2024 cap hit is $5M. Zeke's is $2M. So $3M more. Even if you want to use his AAV of $8M it's only $6M more.
I think some are misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm in no way excusing Jerry for not going after a Henry or Barkley, I 100% think he should have especially after the All In comment and Henry saying he'd give Dallas a discount.
My point is I just don't see the team being much different had we got one of them.

This is my view of the team today not last June.
 

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Jeanty is better than Bijan Robinson. Same caliber player Zeke was coming out
Zeke though never had the type of elusiveness that Jeanty has. The possible negative here is Jeanty has carried the ball a ton in college Jeanty would really help the offense is all I know. He would take advantage of those holes I see Beebe creating in the middle.

I think teams are watching the Eagles and Ravens closely. Running backs could be valued more highly because of this. The Cowboys could end up picking outside the top 10. They could miss out. I don't think it a coincidence the defense played better Sunday after getting back Bland and Parsons. Getting Bland back was huge for the defense.
 

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If we have a best 5 I haven't seen it.
Very true. Steele regressed. I don't view him as a top five lineman on this team anymore. They paying Steele way too much and he will be asked to take a pay cut and if he doesn't they will cut him.
 

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Zeke though never had the type of elusiveness that Jeanty has. The possible negative here is Jeanty has carried the ball a ton in college Jeanty would really help the offense is all I know. He would take advantage of those holes I see Beebe creating in the middle.

I think teams are watching the Eagles and Ravens closely. Running backs could be valued more highly because of this. The Cowboys could end up picking outside the top 10. They could miss out. I don't think it a coincidence the defense played better Sunday after getting back Bland and Parsons. Getting Bland back was huge for the defense.
Different kids, but same caliber which is bell cow back on day one. He would help maximize Dak's next four years
 

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I think some are misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm in no way excusing Jerry for not going after a Henry or Barkley, I 100% think he should have especially after the All In comment and Henry saying he'd give Dallas a discount.
My point is I just don't see the team being much different had we got one of them.

This is my view of the team today not last June.
I understood your point, I just disagreed
 

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walk on effort guys who show out when given a chance always deserve closer looks through opportunity. I'd find a place for him, even at safety should Diggs be here next year.

Undrafted corners named Butler. Things that make you go Hmmm.

Just no Super Bowl stage for him.
 

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I sometimes wonder if this team actually just strives for mediocrity...

I don't doubt this at all. Jerry is stupid enough to write this season off to injuries. While this team could sign Parsons and still have $100M in cap space if they so chose, Jerry and Stephen will likely pretend signing Parsons has left them too up against the cap to spend(and save themselves $80M cash by not moving money around), and roll out the same roster, minus probably Steele, Martin, Tank, Osa and Cooks and only add a draft and junkpile FA's. In which case we go around 5-12 and Mac gets fired and Jerry says all in...and hires some retread like Rex Ryan or Marvin Lewis
 

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Easy kid to root for. Even going back to the preseason in 2023 he showed he might be able to play at this level. Good to see him do the most with his opportunity.

This guy did more in one game than Bossman Fat did the entire time he was here.

He looks like a useful player.

I also like how he is able to look back and get himself in position the make a play on the ball. Carson is not able to do this so far.
 

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I seen that Butler is only playing because Bland & Diggs were out.
I think Bland came back last week. So that means when Diggs comes back, Butler leaves the field?

Hate to say this, but I think it would be a mistake. Not saying he is better, but he hustles. & that can be contagious to the rest of the defenders. (if they have any pride)
So I hope they find away to keep him playing in the games after Diggs gets back :(
 

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I seen that Butler is only playing because Bland & Diggs were out.
I think Bland came back last week. So that means when Diggs comes back, Butler leaves the field?

Hate to say this, but I think it would be a mistake. Not saying he is better, but he hustles. & that can be contagious to the rest of the defenders. (if they have any pride)
So I hope they find away to keep him playing in the games after Diggs gets back :(
He’ll be the #4 at best when all are healthy but I don’t think Diggs plays this week. But if the team plays it right and plays 4 CBs and one safety in obvious passing downs or at least in some situations he’ll get some snaps. Plus one of the top 3 is likely to miss some time here and there. He’ll get a chance to keep proving himself. Crazy to say with all the players who get the media blitz on this team, but I think Lewis may be the heart of the defense at this point. He’s kind of a little bad ass.
 
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