So who wins the SB

[Broncos6482]

It will be the Seahawks fans, but I don't think we will gloat for more than a day or two.

Are you from the future? Did you invent a time machine?

 

[STBR 27]

Are you from the future? Did you invent a time machine?

No, not from the future, but I can't see how Denver wins this game? They are one dimensional (though that one dimension is pretty good) and don't have a very good defense. Prather might be busy, but FGs won't be enough to win this game.

 

[Morpheus]

No, not from the future, but I can't see how Denver wins this game? They are one dimensional (though that one dimension is pretty good) and don't have a very good defense. Prather might be busy, but FGs won't be enough to win this game.

One dimensional? Knowshon Moreno ran for over 1000 yards and 10 TDs. He also caught 60 receptions out of the backfield for over 500 yards and 3 TDS. A RB was our leading scorer this season, not a WR. Rookie Montee Ball came on the later part of the season as a very good power runner and short yardage back.

Go look at the defensive stats for the post season so far.

You have a myopic homer point of view and don't know how to evaluate a team.

 

[Broncos6482]

No, not from the future, but I can't see how Denver wins this game? They are one dimensional (though that one dimension is pretty good) and don't have a very good defense. Prather might be busy, but FGs won't be enough to win this game.

Oh, I see you know nothing about Denver.

 

[WizardHawk]

One dimensional? Knowshon Moreno ran for over 1000 yards and 10 TDs. He also caught 60 receptions out of the backfield for over 500 yards and 3 TDS. A RB was our leading scorer this season, not a WR. Rookie Montee Ball came on the later part of the season as a very good power runner and short yardage back.

Go look at the defensive stats for the post season so far.

You have a myopic homer point of view and don't know how to evaluate a team.

Frank Gore had over 1100 yards rushing on the year too on a team that runs first. How did he do against Seattle this year? Only person on their team that had any luck running was Kaepernick and we all know Manning isn't going to get yards with his legs. It isn't unreasonable for Seattle fans to think their team will hold Denver to under 100y across all of their rushers. In fact I wouldn't think it is unreasonable to say they won't top 60. Is that what will happen? Well who the hell knows. But they have shut down some quality running teams year so why wouldn't some of our fans feel confident they will do it again?

 

[ram29jackson]

Frank Gore had over 1100 yards rushing on the year too on a team that runs first. How did he do against Seattle this year? Only person on their team that had any luck running was Kaepernick and we all know Manning isn't going to get yards with his legs. It isn't unreasonable for Seattle fans to think their team will hold Denver to under 100y across all of their rushers. In fact I wouldn't think it is unreasonable to say they won't top 60. Is that what will happen? Well who the hell knows. But they have shut down some quality running teams year so why wouldn't some of our fans feel confident they will do it again?

LOL because Manning...Seattle will have to be able to counter Mannings multiple counters and they wont be able to

 

[STBR 27]

One dimensional? Knowshon Moreno ran for over 1000 yards and 10 TDs. He also caught 60 receptions out of the backfield for over 500 yards and 3 TDS. A RB was our leading scorer this season, not a WR. Rookie Montee Ball came on the later part of the season as a very good power runner and short yardage back.

Go look at the defensive stats for the post season so far.

You have a myopic homer point of view and don't know how to evaluate a team.

Oh, I see you know nothing about Denver.

We'll just group these two together so neither of you gets left out.

Moreno or Ball will be non-factors against this Seattle run defense, just like Gore was a non-factor in the NFC Championship game, therefore all you will have is the pass, which is quite good.

I have seen the stats, they are good, but even better than that, I saw the games and they showed me that Brady couldn't have hit the broad side of a barn from 10 feet away with most of his passes. The SD game is tough to judge because of the wind, but I guess your defense did an OK job against a banged up offense.

Of course earlier in the season, in the game when you lost to SD, Allen (Harvin is quite similar to him) TORCHED your secondary all game long, when they were not gashing your front seven for massive yards on the ground. Seattle is better at running than SD and have the tools to pass well when they need to. Since that time, your secondary is even worse, but I guess you already know all about that?

 

[Broncos6482]

Frank Gore had over 1100 yards rushing on the year too on a team that runs first. How did he do against Seattle this year? Only person on their team that had any luck running was Kaepernick and we all know Manning isn't going to get yards with his legs. It isn't unreasonable for Seattle fans to think their team will hold Denver to under 100y across all of their rushers. In fact I wouldn't think it is unreasonable to say they won't top 60. Is that what will happen? Well who the hell knows. But they have shut down some quality running teams year so why wouldn't some of our fans feel confident they will do it again?

None of that is relevant to the post you quoted. The reason he brought up Moreno's numbers was to counter the ridiculous claim that Denver's offense was one-dimensional. Of course Seattle may keep Denver from accomplishing much on the ground, but that still doesn't mean that the Broncos offense is one-dimensional. In fact Denver was 15th in the NFL in yards per game.

Besides, even if Denver was one-dimensional, that obviously doesn't mean they can be easily shut down. We are talking about the highest scoring offense in NFL history. The fact that you've got this great offense going up against this great defense is what makes the matchup so intriguing; but anyone who claims this will be an easy win for either team I think is either greatly overestimating their own team or greatly underestimating the other.

 

[Morpheus]

Frank Gore had over 1100 yards rushing on the year too on a team that runs first. How did he do against Seattle this year? Only person on their team that had any luck running was Kaepernick and we all know Manning isn't going to get yards with his legs. It isn't unreasonable for Seattle fans to think their team will hold Denver to under 100y across all of their rushers. In fact I wouldn't think it is unreasonable to say they won't top 60. Is that what will happen? Well who the hell knows. But they have shut down some quality running teams year so why wouldn't some of our fans feel confident they will do it again?

Frank Gore had over 1100 yards rushing on the year too on a team that runs first. How did he do against Seattle this year?

But Denver isn't a run first team. Seattle can't afford to stack the box to stop the run. They will rush 4, maybe send 5 and then play either press man or a 3 deep zone with a rover to try and slow down the BEST PASSING THREAT the NFL has eve seen.

Manning is the best at Audibling into the right play. Seattle does not disguise what they do on defense. They commit to stopping the run, a receiver is open. They drop 7 into coverage, Denver runs the ball.

 

[STBR 27]

None of that is relevant to the post you quoted. The reason he brought up Moreno's numbers was to counter the ridiculous claim that Denver's offense was one-dimensional. Of course Seattle may keep Denver from accomplishing much on the ground, but that still doesn't mean that the Broncos offense is one-dimensional. In fact Denver was 15th in the NFL in yards per game.

Besides, even if Denver was one-dimensional, that obviously doesn't mean they can be easily shut down. We are talking about the highest scoring offense in NFL history. The fact that you've got this great offense going up against this great defense is what makes the matchup so intriguing; but anyone who claims this will be an easy win for either team I think is either greatly overestimating their own team or greatly underestimating the other.

The #1 offense against the #1 defense is going to be overshadowed by the Seattle offense going up against a dumpster fire of a defense and will be the reason the Seahawks will win this game.

 

[Broncos6482]

We'll just group these two together so neither of you gets left out.

Moreno or Ball will be non-factors against this Seattle run defense, just like Gore was a non-factor in the NFC Championship game, therefore all you will have is the pass, which is quite good.

I have seen the stats, they are good, but even better than that, I saw the games and they showed me that Brady couldn't have hit the broad side of a barn from 10 feet away with most of his passes. The SD game is tough to judge because of the wind, but I guess your defense did an OK job against a banged up offense.

Of course earlier in the season, in the game when you lost to SD, Allen (Harvin is quite similar to him) TORCHED your secondary all game long, when they were not gashing your front seven for massive yards on the ground. Seattle is better at running than SD and have the tools to pass well when they need to. Since that time, your secondary is even worse, but I guess you already know all about that?

Oh, so now we're going to use the Broncos worst showing of the season as our barometer? Ok. I can do that, too.

Of course earlier in the season, in the game when you lost to Indy, T.Y. Hilton (Demaryius Thomas is better than him) TORCHED your secondary all game long, that is when Brown wasn't gashing your front seven for massive yards on the ground. Denver is better at passing than Indy and have the tools to run well when they need to.

See how dumb that is?

 

[Broncos6482]

The #1 offense against the #1 defense is going to be overshadowed by the Seattle offense going up against a dumpster fire of a defense and will be the reason the Seahawks will win this game.

Except that Denver's defense isn't a dumpster fire, and hasn't been for the past 4 games.

But if you want to talk about dumpster fires, how about Wilson trying to pass the ball? Only over 200 yards twice in the last 6 games? Yikes.

 

[flaraider]

We'll just group these two together so neither of you gets left out.

Moreno or Ball will be non-factors against this Seattle run defense, just like Gore was a non-factor in the NFC Championship game, therefore all you will have is the pass, which is quite good.

I have seen the stats, they are good, but even better than that, I saw the games and they showed me that Brady couldn't have hit the broad side of a barn from 10 feet away with most of his passes. The SD game is tough to judge because of the wind, but I guess your defense did an OK job against a banged up offense.

Of course earlier in the season, in the game when you lost to SD, Allen (Harvin is quite similar to him) TORCHED your secondary all game long, when they were not gashing your front seven for massive yards on the ground. Seattle is better at running than SD and have the tools to pass well when they need to. Since that time, your secondary is even worse, but I guess you already know all about that?

Not exactly on topic, but I noticed that too, most of his passes were high, imo that was that mile-high air.

I don't think that will be an issue in East Rutherford, but my $ is still on Payton, hard to go against "Omaha".

 

[STBR 27]

Oh, so now we're going to use the Broncos worst showing of the season as our barometer? Ok. I can do that, too.

Of course earlier in the season, in the game when you lost to Indy, T.Y. Hilton (Demaryius Thomas is better than him) TORCHED your secondary all game long, that is when Brown wasn't gashing your front seven for massive yards on the ground. Denver is better at passing than Indy and have the tools to run well when they need to.

See how dumb that is?

No, you aren't, Denver lost to Indy too. FAIL

 

[Broncos6482]

No, you aren't, Denver lost to Indy too. FAIL

Really, Denver isn't better at passing than Indy?

 

[flaraider]

The #1 offense against the #1 defense is going to be overshadowed by the Seattle offense going up against a dumpster fire of a defense and will be the reason the Seahawks will win this game.

Damn, dumpster fire? I don't think so, I got no dog in this fight as usual, but Denver will be better than that.

 

[Broncos6482]

Damn, dumpster fire? I don't think so, I got no dog in this fight as usual, but Denver will be better than that.

 

[flaraider]

Except that Denver's defense isn't a dumpster fire, and hasn't been for the past 4 games.

But if you want to talk about dumpster fires, how about Wilson trying to pass the ball? Only over 200 yards twice in the last 6 games? Yikes.

I guess we will see how good Denver run D is eh?

 

[STBR 27]

Except that Denver's defense isn't a dumpster fire, and hasn't been for the past 4 games.

But if you want to talk about dumpster fires, how about Wilson trying to pass the ball? Only over 200 yards twice in the last 6 games? Yikes.

It is ok to admit they are a dumpster fire, they are and everyone knows it.

And they won 4 of those games against defenses that are MUCH better than yours. But since when is it about yards?

 

[Broncos6482]

It is ok to admit they are a dumpster fire, they are and everyone knows it.

And they won 4 of those games against defenses that are MUCH better than yours. But since when is it about yards?

How many games have they won against offenses as good as Denver's?