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So who wins the SB

Who will win the Super Bowl


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Broncos6482

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And that's fair in a general sense. There is a lot of details that are different between them. But what really separates them IMO is their 4th quarter play with the game on the line. Kaep flinches, Wilson does not. Wilson's best plays come when they matter most, Kaep's best plays come when they got a double digit lead.

That's an oversimplification. Kaepernick made plenty of big plays to beat the Packers in the Wild Card round.
 

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I saw the game on Saturday and Wilson wasn't hitting the receivers - it's that simple. I also saw the game before that....again, he wasn't hitting his men.

This is the SB!

You've got to be able to hit the men, not just when they're open, but even when they're covered. Manning can do that and Wilson can't.

Wilson is NOT the strength of the offense and if you think he is, you don't know your team very well. You go only as far as Lynch carries you.

Stats say otherwise, I mean when you connect for 64% of your passes while being under constant pressure. Yeah you are HITTING your recievers.
 

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There are multiple reasons that Denver hasn't given up a sack yet.

1. Manning gets the ball out really, really quick.
2. Manning is an expert at identifying where a blitz is coming from and countering it.
3. Denver's offensive line is really good (PFF had them ranked as the best in the NFL).
4. Knowshon Moreno is also really good in pass protection, but he can also release and catch the ball as a safe outlet.
5. If you beat one of the Broncos lineman cleanly, he'll hold you to keep Manning from getting hit.

:yahoo::10::lol::laugh3::agree::suds:
 

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That's an oversimplification. Kaepernick made plenty of big plays to beat the Packers in the Wild Card round.

Maybe a little oversimplification, not much though. Wilson lives for the big moment.
 

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That's an oversimplification. Kaepernick made plenty of big plays to beat the Packers in the Wild Card round.

Not really, GB and CAR just didn't capitalize on his mistakes, Seattle did.
 

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Seeing how it will be 20 degrees at kick off and prolly the usual New Jersey swirling winds. I think Seattle will have the advantage 'cause they have the better defense.

Seattle- 24
Denver- 20

Still buying into this "Manning can't play in cold weather" BS?

Forecast calls for winds 5-10 MPH, but it is still 11 days out.

Manning threw for 230 and 2 TDs in a very windy playoff game against SD with 40 mph gusts.

He threw for 397 and 4 TD's against the Titans in -5 degrees.

Just stop with this nonsense.
 

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Maybe a little oversimplification, not much though. Wilson lives for the big moment.

Like against the Colts, where his last two drives with the game on the line ended with a punt and an interception? Or the Arizona game, where he threw an interception on the first play of a potential game tying drive?
 

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Thats odd. I just looked that up a bit ago and it was Denver.

NFL Penalties - 2013 League Penalty Stats - NFL Penalty Stats Tracker - List/Statistics/Data of NFL Penalties - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014

I hate nfl.com's website but you'd think they would have the best info so you might be right



Penalties won't be the issue. If you commit a penalty at a bad time that gives up a first down or negates a big play on offense or ST, then it becomes a factor.

Neither team really has an edge here, whoever plays smarter.
 

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Like against the Colts, where his last two drives with the game on the line ended with a punt and an interception? Or the Arizona game, where he threw an interception on the first play of a potential game tying drive?

Well, considering those the only two games he has ever played in, I guess you're right.
 

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Well, considering those the only two games he has ever played in, I guess you're right.

You're missing the point. I said it was an oversimplification to say that Wilson lives for those moments and Kaepernick fails in them. The truth is that both have made plays and succeeded in the 4th quarter, and both have failed in the 4th quarter.
 

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Done here. Just bravado, no real analysis.
 

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You're missing the point. I said it was an oversimplification to say that Wilson lives for those moments and Kaepernick fails in them. The truth is that both have made plays and succeeded in the 4th quarter, and both have failed in the 4th quarter.

Wilson has 9 4th quarter and overtime winning drives, and had plenty of other games where he put together 7-8 minute drives to seal a win. . He's been one of the best late game QBs in the league over the past two years, Kap has not been.
 

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I dont know how you could pick against Peyton Manning
 

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Really? He is 10-11 career in the postseason. Not exactly a sure thing :scratch:

it means more post season experience and he's playing in a 3rd SB . LOL at trying to paint being in 21 playoff games as a negative.

I get your thinking but 10-11 isn't a bad thing as much as good thing at this stage.
 

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1 thing I don't like about Denver is they constantly use illegal picks. You saw it yesterday with Welker, anytime they are on the goalline they have 3 guys line up next to each other and then it's nothing but illegal picks until somebody is open. It'll be fun to watch the Seattle secondary throwing their weight around to counter that.


You might want to check out the sizes of the Broncos receivers vs. the Seattle defensive backs before you throw that one out there.
 

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You might want to check out the sizes of the Broncos receivers vs. the Seattle defensive backs before you throw that one out there.


yeah, I don't think Welker or Decker are going to want to be setting picks on Chancellor.
 

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yeah, I don't think Welker or Decker are going to want to be setting picks on Chancellor.

I'm guessing Sherman, Thomas, Maxwell, and Lane want nothing to do with Decker, Thomas, and Thomas. Plus Welker looked like he did just fine taking on a big DB last week.
 
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