So who wins the SB

[HaroldSeattle]

false sense of security ? I've been right about the SB outcome the last 4 years.

LOL at your silly quote. I am wiser and smarter than you without question.

your quote is all cute and everything but when you actually are smarter than someone else theres not much reason to hide it nor is there much you who hates the fact can actually do about it.

you see honey...in this medium of text communication I have to in fact tell you I'm smarter than you so you understand. Since you aren't lucky enough to be physically in the same room with me to experience it. enjoy your simple minded pursuits while I'm right as always again.

 

[STBR 27]

Except for it being brought up a Seattle fan, so I guess you really HAVEN'T moved on.

And you didn't answer the question. Could you please explain to me how that's not holding?

Thank you.

Who hasn't moved on? You are the one that is stalking and harrassing me.

 

[WizardHawk]

Who hasn't moved on? You are the one that is stalking and harrassing me.

That's all she talks about is her teams 6 rings. Doesn't matter that only 5 of them were earned. Now she wants to rehash it.

 

[KwitYerWhinin]

Seahawk fans destroy Bronco - YouTube

Jeff Foxworthy was right...theres rednecks everywhere

 

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Jeff Foxworthy was right...theres rednecks everywhere

a quarter of them live in Colorado

 

[KwitYerWhinin]

a quarter of them live in Colorado[/QUOTE


That was probably you in that video wasn't it Bart

 

[Banned 10x]

a quarter of them live in Colorado[/QUOTE


That was probably you in that video wasn't it Bart

you can't even quote correctly.

How about an avi bet?

 

[KwitYerWhinin]

you can't even quote correctly.

How about an avi bet?

apparently you haven't noticed the respect I have for avatars in general. If somehow I turn 13 again though I will look you up.

 

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apparently you haven't noticed the respect I have for avatars in general. If somehow I turn 13 again though I will look you up.

I had a feeling that's what your old ass would say

 

[CaptainStubing]

Getting back to the actual game itself, one aspect of the game i haven't heard discussed much are special teams. If it is a tight contest, st can make the difference. Both of these teams have good st units but is one better than the other?

 

[STBR 27]

Getting back to the actual game itself, one aspect of the game i haven't heard discussed much are special teams. If it is a tight contest, st can make the difference. Both of these teams have good st units but is one better than the other?

Denver's kick off coverage has been suspect this year, they have given up a TD and almost a TD (tackled at the 4 or 5?). Seattle also returned one on them in the preseason and with Harvin back there in this game, it could happen again? Kickers are about equal with Prather likely having a bit stronger leg. Punters are about the same, but I think Seattle probably has an edge in punt coverage, but I don't expect them to punt often.

 

[cdumler7]

Denver's kick off coverage has been suspect this year, they have given up a TD and almost a TD (tackled at the 4 or 5?). Seattle also returned one on them in the preseason and with Harvin back there in this game, it could happen again? Kickers are about equal with Prather likely having a bit stronger leg. Punters are about the same, but I think Seattle probably has an edge in punt coverage, but I don't expect them to punt often.

Denver's kick off return team though is just as dangerous in no other player has more returns over the last 2 years for touchdowns than Holiday. Now when it comes to the question I would say they are pretty even. If Holiday was returning punts I would give the edge to Seattle because of his tendency to fumble but he has been taken off that duty and Decker has been just about as dangerous as anybody returning punts over the last few weeks.

 

[WizardHawk]

While it isn't going to be as cold as we were originally told it would be, the temperature will likely have some impact on the special teams for both. The ball travels farther as the temperature gets warmer. Both kickers can kick it out of the end zone on kick offs at 70 degrees. Can they both get all of them out in a game around the lower 40's? Denver's kicker obviously has the stronger leg after setting the NFL FG record this year, but both kickers are going to need to boom those kick offs as both teams will likely make returns even from deep inside the end zone and neither wants to see the other one do that.

I don't know about Denver's punting unit, but that is a big time strength for Seattle. Their punter can boom deep punts, but more importantly their coverage on kicks is second to none. On the other side Tate does the returns and probably isn't a major threat to run one back.

 

[CaptainStubing]

Denver's kick off return team though is just as dangerous in no other player has more returns over the last 2 years for touchdowns than Holiday. Now when it comes to the question I would say they are pretty even. If Holiday was returning punts I would give the edge to Seattle because of his tendency to fumble but he has been taken off that duty and Decker has been just about as dangerous as anybody returning punts over the last few weeks.

yep, it seems both teams have decent return games. maybe it will be the difference in the game if someone can break one for a TD.

 

[cdumler7]

While it isn't going to be as cold as we were originally told it would be, the temperature will likely have some impact on the special teams for both. The ball travels farther as the temperature gets warmer. Both kickers can kick it out of the end zone on kick offs at 70 degrees. Can they both get all of them out in a game around the lower 40's? Denver's kicker obviously has the stronger leg after setting the NFL FG record this year, but both kickers are going to need to boom those kick offs as both teams will likely make returns even from deep inside the end zone and neither wants to see the other one do that.

I don't know about Denver's punting unit, but that is a big time strength for Seattle. Their punter can boom deep punts, but more importantly their coverage on kicks is second to none. On the other side Tate does the returns and probably isn't a major threat to run one back.

Our punting unit has improved dramatically as the season has gone on. When we were dealing with injuries the units were shuffling quite a bit so it was hard to get much consistency. Now given in the playoffs it has been hard to tell as the Broncos have only punted once so far.

Now as for the Seattle kicker what is your definition of booming a kick? Because he actually is almost dead last in punt average which is distance traveled. Now he does have a very small difference in average and net average so my guess is he is more focused on getting fair catches than he is on actual distance. Nothing wrong with that as it takes most punt returners completely out of the game just saying I don't think he booms it deep unless you mean having a high hang time.

 

[STBR 27]

Our punting unit has improved dramatically as the season has gone on. When we were dealing with injuries the units were shuffling quite a bit so it was hard to get much consistency. Now given in the playoffs it has been hard to tell as the Broncos have only punted once so far.

Now as for the Seattle kicker what is your definition of booming a kick? Because he actually is almost dead last in punt average which is distance traveled. Now he does have a very small difference in average and net average so my guess is he is more focused on getting fair catches than he is on actual distance. Nothing wrong with that as it takes most punt returners completely out of the game just saying I don't think he booms it deep unless you mean having a high hang time.

Usually Ryan was kicking to prevent returns, which means hang time, not distance. However, he kicked one 68 yards (in the air) against the Rams, so he has it in him to boom it if he wants. Jeremy Lane and Ricardo Lockette are pretty good at covering punts too, so punt returns have been very minimal against this team.

 

[WizardHawk]

Our punting unit has improved dramatically as the season has gone on. When we were dealing with injuries the units were shuffling quite a bit so it was hard to get much consistency. Now given in the playoffs it has been hard to tell as the Broncos have only punted once so far.

Now as for the Seattle kicker what is your definition of booming a kick? Because he actually is almost dead last in punt average which is distance traveled. Now he does have a very small difference in average and net average so my guess is he is more focused on getting fair catches than he is on actual distance. Nothing wrong with that as it takes most punt returners completely out of the game just saying I don't think he booms it deep unless you mean having a high hang time.

Yes, most of their punting game is around not allowing a return. Combine that with a lot of our punts coming around midfield and his distance isn't high, but when he does have to kick one deep he has never had a problem doing so. Look at his stats for longest over his entire career. He did have a higher average last year, but sometime about half way through the season they appeared to change to more shorter, but very high punts to kill returns. His punts don't look like wounded ducks. They boom, but go way up higher to allow coverage. They just don't give up returns and in fact were under 15y of total return until like week 15 or so when one team broke one for like 30y. The only return allowed the entire season.

 

[Morpheus]

Ok, you have Sunday ticket and have watched Seattle play. If correct, you know more about the Seahawks than I do of the Bronco's.
With that in mind, yes we will play press coverage on most downs. ET on top and Kam will roam, playing closer to the LOS. We will sometimes drop a down lineman into a short zone and often blitz Wagner or Irvin who are both quick.
You know that the Seahawks D consists of ferocious hitters. You've seen Kam blow up crossing routes and you've seen both CB's and LB's blow up screens better than any other D. They are very stout against the run. Throwing the deep ball is risky against Seattle.
I think Denver will be forced to play the middle of the field due to a lack of being able to run effectively and avoiding the deep ball unless open. If that is the case, by the second half I expect Denver's WR's to exhibit short arm syndrome similar to what you saw with Whitten, Crabtree, Boldin and a few others.
Throwing in that Seattle is very balanced and considering the ST's game, you should be able to understand our confidence.
Having Percy on the field should opens things up for other aspects as well.

That's a good post, but I think you are underestimating Denver's WR.

I fully expect that if they go over the middle with short crossing routes or down the seam, there will be a Seahawks LBer or Safety ready to lay a hit. So Denver's receivers need to be prepared for a physical game and Protect the football.

We have 3 very big and physical receivers in D Thomas (6'3" 229), Decker (6'3" 214) and TE Julius Thomas (6'5" 250). Welker is a pretty tough receiver who runs great routes over the middle and is a master at getting open.

They can get yards after the catch, especially if they are one on one with a CB.

I also think you are underestimating Denver's running game. Moreno has had his best year of his career and is a complete back, run, catch and pass protection. Montee Ball is no slouch either.

Seattle's strength in their front 4 is having good depth and rotating those guys to keep them fresh. I have seen them swap out the entire front 4. Manning is not going to allow them do that as effectively with the hurry up and Denver's O-line is solid. He has not been touched hardly in the post season and they also run block very effectively as well. They may get some rpessure and a sack or two but it is not a mismatch.

The Denver O-line and Seattle front 4 is going to be a great match-up, both very good units. It will be fun to watch.

I think a lot of people are underestimating Denver's defense as well. Go back and look at the Chargers and Patriots game. Both good offenses with a good run game and great QBs with good receivers, both top 10 offenses and the Denver defense shut them down the first 3 quarters.

It is going to be a good game, IMO and if the Broncos don't turn the ball over more than 2 times, they will outscore Seattle.

 

[Broncos6482]

That's a good post, but I think you are underestimating Denver's WR.

I fully expect that if they go over the middle with short crossing routes or down the seam, there will be a Seahawks LBer or Safety ready to lay a hit. So Denver's receivers need to be prepared for a physical game and Protect the football.

We have 3 very big and physical receivers in D Thomas (6'3" 229), Decker (6'3" 214) and TE Julius Thomas (6'5" 250). Welker is a pretty tough receiver who runs great routes over the middle and is a master at getting open.

They can get yards after the catch, especially if they are one on one with a CB.

I also think you are underestimating Denver's running game. Moreno has had his best year of his career and is a complete back, run, catch and pass protection. Montee Ball is no slouch either.

Seattle's strength in their front 4 is having good depth and rotating those guys to keep them fresh. I have seen them swap out the entire front 4. Manning is not going to allow them do that as effectively with the hurry up and Denver's O-line is solid. He has not been touched hardly in the post season and they also run block very effectively as well. They may get some rpessure and a sack or two but it is not a mismatch.

The Denver O-line and Seattle front 4 is going to be a great match-up, both very good units. It will be fun to watch.

I think a lot of people are underestimating Denver's defense as well. Go back and look at the Chargers and Patriots game. Both good offenses with a good run game and great QBs with good receivers, both top 10 offenses and the Denver defense shut them down the first 3 quarters.

It is going to be a good game, IMO and if the Broncos don't turn the ball over more than 2 times, they will outscore Seattle.

I agree with you, I think when the Broncos are on offense they'll go with a lot of no-huddle to keep Seattle's defensive line trapped on the field. That doesn't necessarily mean hurry up, as they may stand at the line and let the play clock wind down.

As for our defense, apparently you haven't heard: it's a total dumpster fire. They can't do anything right. Frankly if they manage to get on the field without tripping over their own two feet I'll be impressed.

 

[cdumler7]

I agree with you, I think when the Broncos are on offense they'll go with a lot of no-huddle to keep Seattle's defensive line trapped on the field. That doesn't necessarily mean hurry up, as they may stand at the line and let the play clock wind down.

As for our defense, apparently you haven't heard: it's a total dumpster fire. They can't do anything right. Frankly if they manage to get on the field without tripping over their own two feet I'll be impressed.

They can take some notes from watching film on Decker on how to properly fall when running on the field.