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that single play was the game winner. The Cravens INT. Why wouldn't the defense get credit for this win?

No...that play solidified the win. The points we scored won the game. The points we didn't allow them to score won the game. That was a single play. Unless that as was worth 29 points our offense had already scored, you are wrong. That is like saying the defense against GB won the game because they were on the field last.
 

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No...that play solidified the win. The points we scored won the game. The points we didn't allow them to score won the game. That was a single play. Unless that as was worth 29 points our offense had already scored, you are wrong. That is like saying the defense against GB won the game because they were on the field last.

No. When the Giants just needed a Fg to win Cravens makes the play to WIN the game on the LAST drive of the game.
 

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THEY ALREADY GAVE UP 27 POINTS YOU DUMB ASS

Doesn't matter. The defense made the play to win the game. You have to give credit to the defense in this situation.
 

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Doesn't matter. The defense made the play to win the game. You have to give credit to the defense in this situation.


Worst defense in the division. Bottom three in the conference, and bottom ten in the league.... But you want to give them credit for a few lucky plays?? Let me guess, you think Buster Douglas was the greatest fighter even because he beat Tyson right??
 

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Think about it. Even if we recovered and scored the defense still needs a stop to win the game.
think about it we could burn most of the clock off in the process of scoring
 

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Worst defense in the division. Bottom three in the conference, and bottom ten in the league.... But you want to give them credit for a few lucky plays?? Let me guess, you think Buster Douglas was the greatest fighter even because he beat Tyson right??

lol. no. A little more than a few luck plays.
 

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think about it we could burn most of the clock off in the process of scoring

Were not going to burn 8 minutes from midfield. Plus Dallas had three time outs. Dallas would have gotten the ball back.
 

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we didnt have 8 minutes left the boys came down scored the TD and left us with very little time to respond

Im talking about if we got the first onside kick. There were 8 minutes left in the game.
 

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ok say we had 8 minutes left and we recover the onside kick take 4 minutes off the clock and score . we would be ahead dallas would have the ball on their 25 yd line after the KO with less the 4 minutes to play and you get the scenario you pined for except we have the lead
 

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ok say we had 8 minutes left and we recover the onside kick take 4 minutes off the clock and score . we would be ahead dallas would have the ball on their 25 yd line after the KO with less the 4 minutes to play and you get the scenario you pined for except we have the lead


Dallas rams the ball down our throats eating up most of the clock, and he continues to say... well if the offense would have just scored 90 points the defense would have looked great giving up 55.
 

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ok say we had 8 minutes left and we recover the onside kick take 4 minutes off the clock and score . we would be ahead dallas would have the ball on their 25 yd line after the KO with less the 4 minutes to play and you get the scenario you pined for except we have the lead

Right. But the defense who you guys love to hate would have to make a stop to win. So the defense had to stop them in any scenario. So it wasn't worth doing the onside kick.
 

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Dallas rams the ball down our throats eating up most of the clock, and he continues to say... well if the offense would have just scored 90 points the defense would have looked great giving up 55.

I just proved the defense would of had to made a stop to win that Dallas game. So if you are going to think like that why bother playing the games? lol
 

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I just proved the defense would of had to made a stop to win that Dallas game. So if you are going to think like that why bother playing the games? lol

So again... do you really think our defense can be counted on to stop any one?? Sure we get lucky once in a while. But you do realize we have given up more rushing TDs than any team in the league right?? The sooner we realize that our defense sucks moose nuts, the sooner we can hope our GM actually addresses it. We need to replace 2/3's of the D-line, at minimum 2 of our 4 LB's and we need two starters in the secondary.
 

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Right. But the defense who you guys love to hate would have to make a stop to win. So the defense had to stop them in any scenario. So it wasn't worth doing the onside kick.
answer , yes to take the lead and get away from trading tds which ends in the cowboys favor
 

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So again... do you really think our defense can be counted on to stop any one?? Sure we get lucky once in a while. But you do realize we have given up more rushing TDs than any team in the league right?? The sooner we realize that our defense sucks moose nuts, the sooner we can hope our GM actually addresses it. We need to replace 2/3's of the D-line, at minimum 2 of our 4 LB's and we need two starters in the secondary.

I don't disagree with that at all. But in the Dallas game situation there was no upside to attempting the first onside kick. We would still have to put the defense out there to stop them to win the game.
 

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answer , yes to take the lead and get away from trading tds which ends in the cowboys favor

What good was the lead in that situation when Dallas still would have time left to kick a game winning Fg.
 

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then we trade it back because we get 2 possessions
 

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I don't disagree with that at all. But in the Dallas game situation there was no upside to attempting the first onside kick. We would still have to put the defense out there to stop them to win the game.


Meaning there was no down side to it either. Aside from possibly admitting that we have no faith in a shitty defense, there was no negative in attempting an onsides kick in a game where we were losing any way.
 
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