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Skins to release Cobra Kai...

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Going to try and keep an open mind about this move and hope for the best for Kai on his next team and for Dustin with us.

Scots the talent evaluator and most of his rookies are showing promise.
 

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Scots the talent evaluator and most of his rookies are showing promise.

If this is Scot call ... i still dont like it ... but I can live with it & am wiling to take a wait & see approach.

But, if this is Jay unilateral decision ... i think he's a doofus.
 

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Jay doesn't have the authority to make this decision unilaterally. Scot has to find the replacement kicker and agree to it.
 

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not a good move but if SM blesses off on it we will see. the kid is a young kicker so who knows ?
 

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I'm not buying Kai wasn't the first to know about his release. I call BS on that, unless the building is bugged. Oh wait, do we play NE this year.

On another note, "the golden shoe" kid does have a strong leg and played for my alma mater FSU...just like the former and they released him to early Graham Gano...good luck Dustin, it's a great place to be a kicker, unless of course you miss one.
 

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I cant believe you guys don't like this move. Kai can not kick the long FG. Perfect example was Sunday's game when Morris got stopped at the 36 yard line of Miami. 53 yard FG should be attempted on any team but not ours. Why? Its b/c Kai cant kick the long ones. Its amazing how people on here defend this guy. I don't care if he clutch inside the 40 yard line. I want a guy who can kick the 52 yard FG to win games or put points on the board like yesterday. Its about time this organization finally realized that Kai should be gone. Gruden is kicking himself that he kept Kai over Hocker in last years training camp.
 

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It also goes to show you that we signed a rookie unknown with a big leg to replace Kai. Im so happy they finally did it. Plus this is not all about the one miss yesterday. This stems from last year. This was a huge problem b/c of his line drive kickoffs and he just has no leg. Im so happy he is gone. Hopefully the new kid works out. At least they will be no kickoff returns to worry about.
 

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Why can't we just stick with a kicker? I bet kai has a great career some where else
 

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It also goes to show you that we signed a rookie unknown with a big leg to replace Kai. Im so happy they finally did it. Plus this is not all about the one miss yesterday. This stems from last year. This was a huge problem b/c of his line drive kickoffs and he just has no leg. Im so happy he is gone. Hopefully the new kid works out. At least they will be no kickoff returns to worry about.
You're right, dean. This is just what we needed. I see us going undefeated the rest of the way.
 

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Why on Earth would you want to stick with Kai? Why do you want a kicker who cant hit a 53-55 yard FG? Its a step in the right direction jy19. I wanted Hocker last year. Gruden chooses experience over ability and we get burned.
 

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That's some fuckin bullshit! Damn! It like the Redskins are daring their fans to leave their Skins fandom behind and find another team.

Maybe the plan involves moving to Los Angeles!
 

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Why on Earth would you want to stick with Kai? Why do you want a kicker who cant hit a 53-55 yard FG? Its a step in the right direction jy19. I wanted Hocker last year. Gruden chooses experience over ability and we get burned.
its not if I want Kai or not. its that we are not addressing the real problem. WE CANT COVER ANY KICKS. Hell, we only kicked off 3 times and 2 of them were deep into the end zone yesterday.

How is this new kicker going to stop a punt return? How is this new kicker going to minimize drive killing penalties? How is this new kicker going to infuse turnovers by our defense? How is this new kicker going to keep Roberts from dropping more passes? Kai is so far down the list of issues we have. I can't wait until this new guy, who you know nothing about, misses a 40 yd FG or an extra point. Be prepared.......
 

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I understand this K doesn't solve everything. But if we need a 52 yard FG to win a game I'm glad its him not Kai. If the new kicker can eliminate KO coverage that would be great. Im talking about the kicker issues not the whole team jy19. Geez. lol.
 

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I'll remember your position when our 12 play 63 yard drive results in a totally deflating miss from 41 Dean. I'm sure the Eagles and Steelers' kickers are great at kickoffs too. How many games come down to last second 53 yard field goals anyway? Way way more games are decided by shorter kicks and we just cut a guy who makes 87% of them.
 

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So guys like Janko and Gostrski are dismissed b/c Kai is good inside the 40? Are you serious? If you get a guy who can get a 53 yard FG that is huge for an offense. A lot of games come down to long FG DGfan.
 

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Our new K is a rookie so there is a learning curve but I rather have a kid who has the tools to build on then a guy who you know cant kick long Fg or touchbacks.
 

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if we had guys on our special teams that could tackle , stay in their lanes and were disciplined it wouldnt matter

its all good though i hope this guy works out for us
 

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Way actually out kicked his coverage and the gunners couldn't get off blocks. That is trouble for any team not just ours.
 

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Lawdy...bad timing on this :happyshake:

 

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Our new K is a rookie so there is a learning curve but I rather have a kid who has the tools to build on then a guy who you know cant kick long Fg or touchbacks.

If you're gonna talk shit about Forbath can you at least get your facts straight?

Forbath kicked a 52 yard FG against Cleveland this preseason.
Scoring Summary
1st Quarter Was Cle
Cle TD 7:59 Travis Benjamin 2 pass from Josh McCown (Carey Spear Kick) 0 7
Was FG 14:30 FG Kai Forbath 33 3 7
2nd Quarter Was Cle
Cle TD 3:50 Johnny Manziel 12 run (Travis Coons Kick) 3 14
Was TD 8:28 Kirk Cousins 4 run (Ty Long Kick) 10 14
Was FG 14:20 FG Kai Forbath 52 13 14
3rd Quarter Was Cle
Cle FG 4:01 FG Carey Spear 47 13 17
Was TD 9:31 Trey Williams 1 run (Ty Long Kick)

For his pro career Forbath is 2/4 on FGs of 50 or more yards. Its not his fault he hasn't been given more opportunities from 50 yards and beyond.

In college Forbath made 10/13 FGs from 50 yards or more with a long of 54 yards.
Kai Forbath Biography

This (cutting Forbath and signing this new kid) seems like another SOP, lazy, trying to cut corners move by yet another FO/coaching staff. Instead of getting someone competent to coach the coverage teams how to damn tackle. They go and get some kid with a strong leg and hope he kicks KOs out of the end-zone. Never once it seems taking into consideration that Forbath is damn dependable with a strong enough leg as a FG kicker.
 
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