skins and KC agent meeting at combine

[deanpet21]

OK so by your logic, Matt Stafford and Derek Carr should NOT get more than Luck right?? Because you can bet your last dime both of them will get more than Luck did.

Stafford deserves it. If Carr goes out this year and wins over 10 games and a playoff win he would deserve it too.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

BTW - you keep saying things like people keep saying he is asking for too much money & a trade should be pursued. By people you basically mean you.

 

[deanpet21]

How is he hurting the Redskins? They have lots of cap money & can still make a lot of moves even after he gets the extension.

b/c if Kc signs the long term deal we will have even more money for our cap to make this team better. Cmon socal you really think he is going to say no to the offer if its 2m off?

 

[Sharkinva]

Stafford deserves it. If Carr goes out this year and wins over 10 games and a playoff win he would deserve it too.

Wait what?? Stafford DESERVES it?? You do realize he is 0-3 in the playoffs right?? So aside from being picked in the first round, how has he become so deserving of a deal higher than Lucks??

 

[deanpet21]

BTW - you keep saying things like people keep saying he is asking for too much money & a trade should be pursued. By people you basically mean you.

NO. I just counted 4 posters who feel the way I do. Its not a anti KC thing that is what you don't understand.

 

[deanpet21]

Wait what?? Stafford DESERVES it?? You do realize he is 0-3 in the playoffs right?? So aside from being picked in the first round, how has he become so deserving of a deal higher than Lucks??

He is a better QB than KC right now. The guy had a huge year with no talent around him. Oh please now you are getting crazy

 

[Sharkinva]

b/c if Kc signs the long term deal we will have even more money for our cap to make this team better. Cmon socal you really think he is going to say no to the offer if its 2m off?

Dean... what all pro free agent are we going to sign for $2m a year?? Sorry dude, but you are using a number to try and justify that you want him gone. You were hoping like hell some one was willing to give up the two 1st rounders for him.

 

[Rowdy]

He is a better QB than KC right now. The guy had a huge year with no talent around him. Oh please now you are getting crazy

The stats sure doesn't say he had a better year than kirk. You better look again dude

 

[Rowdy]

Also Luck has been somewhat of a pick machine and injured, although I do like him and most of his problems are the team around him

 

[deanpet21]

Dean... what all pro free agent are we going to sign for $2m a year?? Sorry dude, but you are using a number to try and justify that you want him gone. You were hoping like hell some one was willing to give up the two 1st rounders for him.

You are missing the point.

 

[redskin4209]

Said it before and I will say it again.. I cant WAIT to see how you spin it when a player you actually like wants to get paid a market level deal. Everyone was screaming Kirk should have to prove 2015 wasnt a fluke, he did and now the talk is.. well the numbers were good... but (insert book report here). At the end of the day you dont get to screw up and still pay less.

He did!!!!! What did KC prove.

 

[Sharkinva]

He did!!!!! What did KC prove.

Last I checked, he proved he was capable of running our offense at a pretty good level. I realize he isnt Rogers or Brady. but I dont see those guys walking into the door any time soon. So unless you got a better option that doesnt involve trading one or more first round draft picks, time for alot of people to accept our QB or go be Packers fans.

 

[countryroads316]

After $20 million per year offer, Redskins and Kirk Cousins remain far apart on deal
After $20 million per year offer, Redskins and Kirk Cousins remain far apart on deal


sounds like he is being greedy if they are far apart

 

[redskin4209]

Last I checked, he proved he was capable of running our offense at a pretty good level. I realize he isnt Rogers or Brady. but I dont see those guys walking into the door any time soon. So unless you got a better option that doesnt involve trading one or more first round draft picks, time for alot of people to accept our QB or go be Packers fans.

Last I checked
Kirk Cousins’ starting record: 19-21-1
Cousins’ record against teams with 9+ wins: 2-11
Teams with 8+ wins: 5-13

My winning QB does not like anything like the above.

 

[gkekoa]

How is 20 million fair if Luck is getting 24.5?

 

[Sharkinva]

Last I checked
Kirk Cousins’ starting record: 19-21-1
Cousins’ record against teams with 9+ wins: 2-11
Teams with 8+ wins: 5-13

My winning QB does not like anything like the above.

So as I have said... Name your winning QB?? Give me this better option you have?? See thats the real issue here. You guys are bitching on how we shouldnt keep Cousins, but you dont have a better option. IM fine with not keeping Cousins, if you got some one better?? BUt to me if keeping Cousins means we cant or WONT dump four more draft picks on the next cant miss QB, if keeping him allows us to actually focus on fixing the defense and improving the team as a whole.... to me its the logical move.

Cousins might not be elite, but last I checked, the best this team has ever been was with three not so elite QBs under center for an extended period of time.

BUt again, if Cousins isnt the guy, who is and how do we get him??

 

[redskin4209]

So as I have said... Name your winning QB?? Give me this better option you have?? See thats the real issue here. You guys are bitching on how we shouldnt keep Cousins, but you dont have a better option. IM fine with not keeping Cousins, if you got some one better?? BUt to me if keeping Cousins means we cant or WONT dump four more draft picks on the next cant miss QB, if keeping him allows us to actually focus on fixing the defense and improving the team as a whole.... to me its the logical move.

Cousins might not be elite, but last I checked, the best this team has ever been was with three not so elite QBs under center for an extended period of time.

BUt again, if Cousins isnt the guy, who is and how do we get him??

Had my eyes on Garoppolo every since the Gaint's debacle

 

[Sharkinva]

Had my eyes on Garoppolo every since the Gaint's debacle

Yea.. he is going to cost a 1st rounder at minimum. Likely more. So we burn the #17 pick to get Grap, again ignore the D-line and IF Jimmy turns out to be simply as good as Cousins we are in the same situation again next year?? Brilliant.

 

[redskin4209]

You ask me and I gave you my reply

Most of the FA qb's can give the numbers and maybe some can give you better numbers than those I just posted on KC

 

[redskin4209]

In 2015-16 we played a soft schedule in other words a 4th place schedule. The Skins were 0-4 vs teams with winning records. Now the Skins did beat the likes of TB, Bears and Rams who had a combined record of the three teams was 19-29. KC was 2-5 vs teams who were above .500

In 2016 we played a first place schedule that is they had to play other division champs. Minnesota, Carolina, and Arizona. We ended up 1 and 2 vs these teams who had a combined 21-26 record.

So you see KC is what he is. If our Skins have to depend on another soft schedule we had in 2015 to make the playoffs then that’s not good and this is what so far is what KC is. Beat team below .500 but cannot beat teams above .500. Most back QB can normally do this.