Shedeur Sanders

[wilwhite]

No way I want this guy. His leadership is weak and he's entitled, and he's nowhere near good enough to make that worth it as an immediate starter. Maybe those can be fixed by sitting him, but then you have to deal with his dad calling you out for it everywhere.

I'd let that poison mess up some other team's mojo.

Unless you're a rudderless mojoless team like the Raiders. Then sure, whatever.

 

[Anointed One]

I still think he holds onto the ball waaaaaaaaaaaay tooo long. Does he have talent.... Yes, does he have "the name" Yes...

So does Cam Ward, although I think Cam will develop into a better QB... Sanders has bust written all over him...

 

[Clayton]

Unless you're a rudderless mojoless team like the Raiders. Then sure, whatever.

Potential landing spots would be Browns, Jets, Giants, Raiders. Not exactly Austin Powers when it comes to mojo

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I'm torn between wanting the Giants to take him as there is a much greater chance he fails than he becomes great and not wanting the Giants to take him because with all that athletic ability there is always a chance they get the guy to turn their franchise around.

 

[Clayton]

I'm torn between wanting the Giants to take him as there is a much greater chance he fails than he becomes great and not wanting the Giants to take him because with all that athletic ability there is always a chance they get the guy to turn their franchise around.

My general take is that the Titans and Browns will ruin him. I don't think their OL/WR corp is promising. Jets, Raiders, and Giants can make him work.

Most teams should probably be rooting for QB to go 1 and 2 here

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Sanders is going to be the next QB that says, "I'm seeing ghosts out there." IMO... but who knows.

And no that's not a race joke.. ya racist fucks!

 

[Cincyfan78]

Sanders, IMO has a bit higher floor if only because I don't think he'll fall for the distractions that some high end QB's end up falling for (i.e. Williams). However, his arm is ok, but when you look at his passing - 70% of passes are 3 yards or less...when you take away the scramble plays where WR's finally get open...what are we looking at 10% of his passes come from actual pocket attempts? He's going to need quite a bit of time to develop - if he ever can. He also would need an offense that would cater to his style. He would fit great in Miami because that seems to be how they run a lot of their stuff, especially with Waddell ...but I think Tua was further along in his QB development than Sanders is. He's got the pedigree, which I think helps in that floor raising...but I'm not so sure that his ceiling is all that high. Current Field Williams is about what I would expect, or maybe a bit of Tua, but with more ability to scramble in the pocket.

 

[redseat]

So does Cam Ward, although I think Cam will develop into a better QB... Sanders has bust written all over him...

Now Cam is predicted to be # 1

 

[Anointed One]

Now Cam is predicted to be # 1

Cam reminds me of big Ben. Sanders reminds me of Geno Smith.

If zCam doesn’t play up to expectations will Jim Rome, call him Kim?

 

[dtgold88]

I'm not that sold on him either... He'll have to read defenses much better at this level...

Is that not true of any QB going from college to NFL?

 

[Anointed One]

Is that not true of any QB going from college to NFL?

Some just do it much better than others... That's what tends to set them apart...

 

[dtgold88]

Potential landing spots would be Browns, Jets, Giants, Raiders. Not exactly Austin Powers when it comes to mojo

Browns have some serious issues for sure, but under this regime all QBs not named watson seem to perform at or above expectations.

 

[dtgold88]

My general take is that the Titans and Browns will ruin him. I don't think their OL/WR corp is promising. Jets, Raiders, and Giants can make him work.

Most teams should probably be rooting for QB to go 1 and 2 here

My general take is the term, ruined, is way overused. when it comes to the Browns I don't believe we have ruined any QBs other than maybe Couch (who was beat up physically). The rest were just bad IMO.

Not really sure why Jets/Raiders/Giants so far a head of a team that won 11 only a couple seasons ago and still has most of those players around.

as to last comment goes without saying any team not in need of QBs want a bucnh to be picked early and often.

 

[dtgold88]

Some just do it much better than others... That's what tends to set them apart...

OK....but they will all need to do it a lot better in the NFL than they did in college.

 

[Clayton]

Browns have some serious issues for sure, but under this regime all QBs not named watson seem to perform at or above expectations.

Honestly, my post is more about the Giants and Raiders having two young star receivers (Nabers and Bowers)

At the end of the day, I think teams 'ruining' QBs is mostly overblown. I don't think the NFL has any dumpster fire organizations and the closest one is probably the Jags.

edit - ninjad

 

[dtgold88]

Honestly, my post is more about the Giants and Raiders having two young star receivers (Nabers and Bowers)

At the end of the day, I think teams 'ruining' QBs is mostly overblown. I don't think the NFL has any dumpster fire organizations and the closest one is probably the Jags.

edit - ninjad

Good points.....little older, but Jeudy was a pro bowler in 1st season here and looked really good when Winston played. Njoku a very good TE (though down year last year) and also like Tillman...though far from level shown of Bowers and Nabers.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

I think there’s a high possibility that Sanders is rated higher by the media than GMs. I wouldn’t be surprised if he slipped to the back of the first round or beyond.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

My general take is the term, ruined, is way overused. when it comes to the Browns I don't believe we have ruined any QBs other than maybe Couch (who was beat up physically). The rest were just bad IMO.

Not really sure why Jets/Raiders/Giants so far a head of a team that won 11 only a couple seasons ago and still has most of those players around.

as to last comment goes without saying any team not in need of QBs want a bucnh to be picked early and often.

I've always been in this camp. Not saying the situation for a young QB is irrelevant but I don't think a bust can always be blamed on the situation. Plenty of great QBs were drafted by terrible teams. The Jets didn't ruin Zach Wilson, he just couldn't play QB in the NFL.

 

[dtgold88]

I've always been in this camp. Not saying the situation for a young QB is irrelevant but I don't think a bust can always be blamed on the situation. Plenty of great QBs were drafted by terrible teams. The Jets didn't ruin Zach Wilson, he just couldn't play QB in the NFL.

Exactly....and if they ruined Darnold how could he have a season like he just did (or Geno Smith)?

I guess since he was once good and came here and was mostly awful a case can be made ruined Watson. But thinking he ruined himself and many of his issues are in his head (or injury issues that he mostly caused).

 

[UnrealTerm04]

I think Shedeur will be the second QB taken in the 2025 draft. I’m honestly not sure if he’ll turn out to be a quality NFL QB or not, but I’m not sold on him. I’m not sold on any QB this year to be honest. And I wouldn’t want to draft him because I think Deion will meddle in his son’s career constantly and I wouldn’t want that drama. But there’s definitely a possibility he’s a good NFL QB.

Yeah, I think Deion will be another Odell Sr