Roster Projections

[SDGuy73]

Individual players cut before the cut down deadline are basically free agents. For example, if the Patriots 'release' Bolden at 3:00 PM then any team can contact him or every team can contact him. Players being released early are being given a chance to sign with a team they'd like to play for not some team making practice squad grabs.

Come the 4:00 PM cuts, then the waiver wire kicks in.

On a totally different note...............the Brissett trade has to mean that something is cooking elsewhere. A Grappolo trade maybe?? Brock Osweiler can be had for the veteran min. he'd love coming to NE because he could play behind Brady and he's due $16M a year from the Texans for the next 2 years. There are a bunch of teams that might be willing to give up players and picks for JG. Think the Jets would give up DE Leonard and next year's #1 for JG?????

The clock is ticking........................tick, tick, tick

 

[Southieinnc]

I was just reading that our man competition is Denver.....

 

[BigKen]

Latest trade rumors brewing Boston and elsewhere.....


PATRIOTS TRADE: WR Danny Amendola, 2018 sixth round pick
JETS TRADE: DE/OLB Lorenzo Mauldin

• Right out of the gate, we go with a very much “outside-of-the-box” trade idea for division rivals. While Amendola isn’t necessarily a player who is on the roster bubble, he is going into the last year of his deal and provided a minimal role for the team in 2016 with only 23 receptions in 12 regular season games. And that was before the team went out and signed Rex Burkhead and traded for Brandin Cooks and Dwayne Allen. Not to mention they have an undrafted free agent who could be the heir to his slot duties in Austin Carr.
• The problem is that with the wide receiver depth the Patriots have, Carr faces a tough challenge to secure a spot on the team’s final roster. And with the risk of potentially losing him to waivers if they try to stash him on their practice squad, there is a small chance the Patriots think about moving on from Amendola, who may retire/be on another team in 2018 to secure Carr for the future.
• The Jets are currently dealing with a complete lack of depth at the wide receiver position. They released Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall and then lost top wide-out Quincy Enunwa to a season-ending neck injury recently. An established wide receiver like Amendola could help make the depth look a bit better for whatever quarterback they Jets decide to put under center.
• NJ Advance Media’ Connor Hughes wrote about how Mauldin’s chances of making the roster are fading away potentially with his poor play and inability to stay healthy. Rather than give up completely on Mauldin without getting any return on investment, the team could look into trading him. The Patriots, like with Eric Rowe last season, have no problem going after players who may not be in a team’s long term plans.
• The Patriots need EDGE depth after losing Rob Ninkovich and Derek Rivers and Mauldin could provide depth while get a chance to reset his career with a new team and perhaps become a valuable piece for their pass rush. The extra draft pick may be a throw-in, but it would give the rebuilding Jets another draft pick to work with in next year’s draft.

PATRIOTS TRADE: LB Elandon Roberts
49ERS TRADE: DE/OLB Aaron Lynch

• Roberts is currently fighting for a roster spot with the team having Dont’a Hightower, David Harris, Kyle Van Noy and even Shea McClellin already at the linebacker position. Roberts’ style of play doesn’t always mesh well with the Patriots defensive scheme of containing big plays rather than relying on “high risk/high reward” play. He has the ability to be a good run stopper but makes too many mistakes on diagnosing plays and where the ball-carrier is going.
• The 49ers need inside linebacker depth behind NaVarro Bowman, who is coming off multiple Achilles injuries in the past couple of years. Roberts could be a good student for Bowman and is under contract for three more seasons. He fits with the 49ers rebuilding model to have young, teachable talent under long-term contract control. Meanwhile, Lynch is on the outside looking in with the team right now.
• He has shown potential like in 2015 but has also dealt with conditioning, injury and even suspension problems since coming into the league. The Patriots could take him in for the one season he is under contract (like Barkevious Mingo in 2016) and see if being with the extremely disciplined Patriots team can get him on the right path. He would provide depth at defensive end and ultimately could be someone who plays on special teams for most of season if he doesn’t pan out.

PATRIOTS TRADE: CB Cyrus Jones, 2018 seventh round pick
BROWNS TRADE: OL John Greco, two 2018 fourth round picks

• Coming off of a Lisfranc injury, Greco came into this year’s camp with Cleveland knowing he would be fighting for a playoff spot. With the Browns signing J.C. Tretter and extending Joel Bitonio, Greco may not be in the team’s long-term plays at age 32. Playing on the last year of his deal and on the roster bubble, the Browns would be wise to get something in return for him.
• While Cyrus Jones showed a sliver of his special teams ability in week two’s preseason game, he has shown no improvement as a defensive back and may not be in the team’s future. With Stephon Gilmore signing long-term, Eric Rowe under contract until 2019 and Jonathan Jones improving, the Patriots may look to recoup some of their investment in Jones while getting help for in the short-term. Jones could be well worth the Browns, who are looking to gather as much young talent as possible while rebuilding and at a position of need.
• Jones won’t garner a second round pick, but he could be worth a couple of early day three selections, which the Browns have two of in 2018.

PATRIOTS TRADE: RB Brandon Bolden, 2019 conditional fifth round pick
CHARGERS TRADE: DE/OLB Jeremiah Attaochu

• Bolden’s best chance of making the Patriots this season is if he wows in the remaining preseason games or a running back gets hurt. He is proficient in his special teams ability, but the team has Matthew Slater, Brandon King and Nate Ebner as core special teams players already. This might be the year Bolden’s luck runs out with New England.
• The Chargers are switching defensive schemes from a 4-3 to a 3-4 for Gus Bradley’s arrival. Attaochu may not be the best fit there and is in the last year of his rookie contract. With Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram as the Chargers future at defensive end/outside linebacker, Attaochu may be available for the right price.
• Considering the Chargers are in need of a back-up running back behind Melvin Gordon with Branden Oliver (coming off Achilles tear) and Andre Williams (not very good), this could be a trade that helps both sides. The conditional pick can be either a fifth or sixth round pick depending on how much the Patriots use Attaochu, who would provide depth and be a situation pass-rusher for New England.

PATRIOTS TRADE: TE Matt Lengel
JAGUARS TRADE: OG Patrick Omameh

• The Patriots have a surplus of tight ends at the moment. Beyond Rob Gronkowski and Dwayne Allen, Lengel, James O’Shaughnessy & Jacob Hollister are competing for the team’s number three job. Lengel was on the team last year, Hollister is a potentially exciting rookie and the team traded for O’Shaughnessy. It’ll be a harder decision than most for the team to decide who they will keep and who they won’t. An option could be trading one of them to get something in return rather than release them.
• Lengel is probably the longest shot for the team right now with Hollister being a potential practice squad candidate and O’Shaughnessy likely being the front runner for the number three job. The Jaguars are in need of tight end depth with Marcedes Lewis and Ben Koyack as their top two players at the position. Lengel would be a welcome addition who can block and also be a red-zone target, which the team lost when they traded Julius Thomas away.
• Omameh is losing traction in his position battle at left guard for the Jaguars. While he may likely be kept as depth even if he loses the job, the team has a good amount of depth already. He hasn’t looked particularly strong this preseason and is only on a one year deal anyway, like Lengel. He would provide valuable interior offensive line depth where he could be the team’s swing guard and allow Ted Karras to be the primary back-up center for the team.

 

[SDGuy73]

Latest trade rumors brewing Boston and elsewhere.....


PATRIOTS TRADE: WR Danny Amendola, 2018 sixth round pick
JETS TRADE: DE/OLB Lorenzo Mauldin

• Right out of the gate, we go with a very much “outside-of-the-box” trade idea for division rivals. While Amendola isn’t necessarily a player who is on the roster bubble, he is going into the last year of his deal and provided a minimal role for the team in 2016 with only 23 receptions in 12 regular season games. And that was before the team went out and signed Rex Burkhead and traded for Brandin Cooks and Dwayne Allen. Not to mention they have an undrafted free agent who could be the heir to his slot duties in Austin Carr.
• The problem is that with the wide receiver depth the Patriots have, Carr faces a tough challenge to secure a spot on the team’s final roster. And with the risk of potentially losing him to waivers if they try to stash him on their practice squad, there is a small chance the Patriots think about moving on from Amendola, who may retire/be on another team in 2018 to secure Carr for the future.
• The Jets are currently dealing with a complete lack of depth at the wide receiver position. They released Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall and then lost top wide-out Quincy Enunwa to a season-ending neck injury recently. An established wide receiver like Amendola could help make the depth look a bit better for whatever quarterback they Jets decide to put under center.
• NJ Advance Media’ Connor Hughes wrote about how Mauldin’s chances of making the roster are fading away potentially with his poor play and inability to stay healthy. Rather than give up completely on Mauldin without getting any return on investment, the team could look into trading him. The Patriots, like with Eric Rowe last season, have no problem going after players who may not be in a team’s long term plans.
• The Patriots need EDGE depth after losing Rob Ninkovich and Derek Rivers and Mauldin could provide depth while get a chance to reset his career with a new team and perhaps become a valuable piece for their pass rush. The extra draft pick may be a throw-in, but it would give the rebuilding Jets another draft pick to work with in next year’s draft.

PATRIOTS TRADE: LB Elandon Roberts
49ERS TRADE: DE/OLB Aaron Lynch

• Roberts is currently fighting for a roster spot with the team having Dont’a Hightower, David Harris, Kyle Van Noy and even Shea McClellin already at the linebacker position. Roberts’ style of play doesn’t always mesh well with the Patriots defensive scheme of containing big plays rather than relying on “high risk/high reward” play. He has the ability to be a good run stopper but makes too many mistakes on diagnosing plays and where the ball-carrier is going.
• The 49ers need inside linebacker depth behind NaVarro Bowman, who is coming off multiple Achilles injuries in the past couple of years. Roberts could be a good student for Bowman and is under contract for three more seasons. He fits with the 49ers rebuilding model to have young, teachable talent under long-term contract control. Meanwhile, Lynch is on the outside looking in with the team right now.
• He has shown potential like in 2015 but has also dealt with conditioning, injury and even suspension problems since coming into the league. The Patriots could take him in for the one season he is under contract (like Barkevious Mingo in 2016) and see if being with the extremely disciplined Patriots team can get him on the right path. He would provide depth at defensive end and ultimately could be someone who plays on special teams for most of season if he doesn’t pan out.

PATRIOTS TRADE: CB Cyrus Jones, 2018 seventh round pick
BROWNS TRADE: OL John Greco, two 2018 fourth round picks

• Coming off of a Lisfranc injury, Greco came into this year’s camp with Cleveland knowing he would be fighting for a playoff spot. With the Browns signing J.C. Tretter and extending Joel Bitonio, Greco may not be in the team’s long-term plays at age 32. Playing on the last year of his deal and on the roster bubble, the Browns would be wise to get something in return for him.
• While Cyrus Jones showed a sliver of his special teams ability in week two’s preseason game, he has shown no improvement as a defensive back and may not be in the team’s future. With Stephon Gilmore signing long-term, Eric Rowe under contract until 2019 and Jonathan Jones improving, the Patriots may look to recoup some of their investment in Jones while getting help for in the short-term. Jones could be well worth the Browns, who are looking to gather as much young talent as possible while rebuilding and at a position of need.
• Jones won’t garner a second round pick, but he could be worth a couple of early day three selections, which the Browns have two of in 2018.

PATRIOTS TRADE: RB Brandon Bolden, 2019 conditional fifth round pick
CHARGERS TRADE: DE/OLB Jeremiah Attaochu

• Bolden’s best chance of making the Patriots this season is if he wows in the remaining preseason games or a running back gets hurt. He is proficient in his special teams ability, but the team has Matthew Slater, Brandon King and Nate Ebner as core special teams players already. This might be the year Bolden’s luck runs out with New England.
• The Chargers are switching defensive schemes from a 4-3 to a 3-4 for Gus Bradley’s arrival. Attaochu may not be the best fit there and is in the last year of his rookie contract. With Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram as the Chargers future at defensive end/outside linebacker, Attaochu may be available for the right price.
• Considering the Chargers are in need of a back-up running back behind Melvin Gordon with Branden Oliver (coming off Achilles tear) and Andre Williams (not very good), this could be a trade that helps both sides. The conditional pick can be either a fifth or sixth round pick depending on how much the Patriots use Attaochu, who would provide depth and be a situation pass-rusher for New England.

PATRIOTS TRADE: TE Matt Lengel
JAGUARS TRADE: OG Patrick Omameh

• The Patriots have a surplus of tight ends at the moment. Beyond Rob Gronkowski and Dwayne Allen, Lengel, James O’Shaughnessy & Jacob Hollister are competing for the team’s number three job. Lengel was on the team last year, Hollister is a potentially exciting rookie and the team traded for O’Shaughnessy. It’ll be a harder decision than most for the team to decide who they will keep and who they won’t. An option could be trading one of them to get something in return rather than release them.
• Lengel is probably the longest shot for the team right now with Hollister being a potential practice squad candidate and O’Shaughnessy likely being the front runner for the number three job. The Jaguars are in need of tight end depth with Marcedes Lewis and Ben Koyack as their top two players at the position. Lengel would be a welcome addition who can block and also be a red-zone target, which the team lost when they traded Julius Thomas away.
• Omameh is losing traction in his position battle at left guard for the Jaguars. While he may likely be kept as depth even if he loses the job, the team has a good amount of depth already. He hasn’t looked particularly strong this preseason and is only on a one year deal anyway, like Lengel. He would provide valuable interior offensive line depth where he could be the team’s swing guard and allow Ted Karras to be the primary back-up center for the team.

Matt Lengel was released August 27th.

 

[BigKen]

UPDATE (5:03 p.m.): The Patriots reportedly acquired DE Cassius Marsh in a trade with the Seahawks. We’re back up to 13 cuts to go.

Tom Curran is reporting that this deal may be a precursor to a huge deal in the making. Richard Sherman to the Patriots for what Seattle has already received this afternoon. Nothing more has been reported. Is this the move to replace Malcolm Butler and the potential issues next year??? Is Malcolm Butler headed to Seattle??

Go to CSNNE. My adblocker won't allow me to see the video.

 

[SDGuy73]

• HE MADE IT: Jacob Hollister will start the season on the 53-man roster, according to ESPN’s Mike Reiss.

 

[BigKen]

Matt Lengel was released August 27th.

I'm just copying what came across the screen about 10 minutes ago. I didn't read them all.

I told you guys earlier that there was a ton of stuff flying around and I couldn't tell the BS from the real stuff.

 

[SDGuy73]

Tom Curran is reporting that this deal may be a precursor to a huge deal in the making. Richard Sherman to the Patriots for what Seattle has already received this afternoon. Nothing more has been reported. Is this the move to replace Malcolm Butler and the potential issues next year??? Is Malcolm Butler headed to Seattle??

Go to CSNNE. My adblocker won't allow me to see the video.

That would be interesting as all hell. It kind of sounds like Sherman could use a fresh start.

 

[Southieinnc]

Tom Curran is reporting that this deal may be a precursor to a huge deal in the making. Richard Sherman to the Patriots for what Seattle has already received this afternoon. Nothing more has been reported. Is this the move to replace Malcolm Butler and the potential issues next year??? Is Malcolm Butler headed to Seattle??

Go to CSNNE. My adblocker won't allow me to see the video.

 

[Southieinnc]

Tom Curran is reporting that this deal may be a precursor to a huge deal in the making. Richard Sherman to the Patriots for what Seattle has already received this afternoon. Nothing more has been reported. Is this the move to replace Malcolm Butler and the potential issues next year??? Is Malcolm Butler headed to Seattle??

Go to CSNNE. My adblocker won't allow me to see the video.

This is not current. Dated April 5th

 

[SDGuy73]

UPDATE (6:42 p.m.): The Patriots are releasing running back Brandon Bolden, a source told ESPN’s Field Yates. Bolden could be re-signed later if the Patriots place any players on injured reserve Sunday. Players who are placed on IR on Saturday cannot return this season. Players who are placed on IR on Sunday can return after eight weeks. So, the Patriots might have to make temporary cuts if they intend to place a player like rookie offensive tackle Antonio Garcia on IR. The Patriots have 12 cuts to go. They should be announced shortly.

 

[SDGuy73]

Phillip Dorsett

2016 Season

REC YDS TD
33 528 2

If the Pats can get that out of him, I'll take it. 16 yards per. We all hope for more.

 

[BigKen]

This is not current. Dated April 5th

Thanks Southie, like I said, my adblocker wouldn't allow me to see the video.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

UPDATE (6:42 p.m.): The Patriots are releasing running back Brandon Bolden, a source told ESPN’s Field Yates. Bolden could be re-signed later if the Patriots place any players on injured reserve Sunday. Players who are placed on IR on Saturday cannot return this season. Players who are placed on IR on Sunday can return after eight weeks. So, the Patriots might have to make temporary cuts if they intend to place a player like rookie offensive tackle Antonio Garcia on IR. The Patriots have 12 cuts to go. They should be announced shortly.

Bolden became expendable with the three signings this afternoon.

 

[SDGuy73]

UPDATE (8:24 p.m.): The Patriots waived RB LeShun Daniels, LB Brooks Ellis, C James Ferentz, DT Woodrow Hamilton, G Ted Karras, DT Darius Kilgo, CB Will Likely, WR Devin Lucien and OT Conor McDermott. Augusta, Hamilton, Killings and Lucien were waived/injured. They will revert to injured reserve if they clear waivers. The Patriots placed WR Julian Edelman, DE Derek Rivers and CB Cyrus Jones on injured reserve. They placed rookie OT Antonio Garcia on non-football illness. They placed DE Keionta Davis on non-football injury.

 

[SDGuy73]

UPDATE (8:36 p.m.): Here’s a full list of the Patriots’ moves as they whittled their roster to 53 players.

Waived: DE Mikey Bart LB Trevor Bates WR Austin Carr TE Sam Cotton RB LeShun Daniels G Jamil Douglas LB Brooks Ellis C James Ferentz RB D.J. Foster DE Geneo Grissom FB Glenn Gronkowski WR Cody Hollister S David Jones G Ted Karras DT Darius Kilgo G Jason King CB William Likely WR K.J. Maye OT Conor McDermott CB Kenny Moore TE James O’Shaughnessy OT Max Rich S Jason Thompson S Damarius Travis LB Nick Usher WR Tony Washington

Released: RB Brandon Bolden LB Jonathan Freeny

Waived/injured: DT Josh Augusta DT Woodrow Hamilton CB D.J. Killings WR Devin Lucien

Injured reserve: WR Julian Edelman CB Cyrus Jones DE Derek Rivers

Non-football illness: OT Antonio Garcia

Non-football injury: DE Keionta Davis OT Andrew Jelks

 

[Southieinnc]

As expected, tough cuts. Some cuts made some of us happy, some cuts made some of us not so happy.
The hardest 1 for me is Carr. If he makes the PS however, that is the perfect spot for him. He can come up when Amendola or Lewis is injured.....

 

[cheerupcharlie]

I thought G Ted Karras was going to make it.

 

[CreepCreep2014]

The one shocker for me is Karras....I thought he was having a hell of camp. The UDFA from Iowa made the club. Prob due to his ability to play OT/OG. This might just be till Garcia comes back. I think today we could see some more moves.

Apparently that kid Marsh (4th rd pick in 14) from Sea was having a great camp and was traded due to numbers, prob why NE gave up two picks.

Ward to TB, Broc back to Den...

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I think BB still tries and find a PR/KR/WR type before long. Or maybe I'm just hoping

Nailed it