Rockpocalypse 2: Battle of the message board nerds

[cerealboi]

sup bitches

This series is the litmus test for the sox. If the Jays win two or more games, the Sox are finished. Book it.

 

[heatwave31]

Bluejays suck



Just wanted you to get the usual welcome

yeah i know they do. but its ok.. life goes on

 

[heatwave31]

This series is the litmus test for the sox. If the Jays win two or more games, the Sox are finished. Book it.

lmao.. welp. no need to worry about that.

 

[gobigred]

Doubront is good, but I wouldn't rank him #1. Maybe 3 or 4.

He has been really good lately but I couldn't put him ahead of those other 3. Just doesn't have the overall stats they do.

 

[black francis]

lel. I guess W-L record is the end all be all again?

W-L record or not, 17-1 is pretty fucking impressive
dont act like his other numbers aren't among the league leaders.

 

[fordman84]

W-L record or not, 17-1 is pretty fucking impressive
dont act like his other numbers aren't among the league leaders.

17-1 is, I'm not discounting that. But Yu and Felix beat him in the other categories. When a pitcher has a good ERA and stats, but a poor W-L everyone says "W-L is a terrible way to judge pitchers". Now though all I'm hearing is his 17-1 record. Great, means he got better run support. If another pitcher has a lower ERA and higher K/BB ratio...then chances are he just didn't get the same breaks and runs from his team.

 

[Kate Upton]

Dammit!

I missed The Heatster!

 

[gobigred]

17-1 is, I'm not discounting that. But Yu and Felix beat him in the other categories. When a pitcher has a good ERA and stats, but a poor W-L everyone says "W-L is a terrible way to judge pitchers". Now though all I'm hearing is his 17-1 record. Great, means he got better run support. If another pitcher has a lower ERA and higher K/BB ratio...then chances are he just didn't get the same breaks and runs from his team.

Run Support is as follows (rank in AL):
Max Scherzer-- 6.17 runs/game (#1)
Yu Darvish-- 4.74 runs/game (#14)
Felix Hernandez-- 4.24 runs/game (#26)


That is a HUGE difference in run support they have gotten and would make a huge difference in record (overrated stat) if these were all equal.

 

[Lord Scalious]

17-1 is, I'm not discounting that. But Yu and Felix beat him in the other categories. When a pitcher has a good ERA and stats, but a poor W-L everyone says "W-L is a terrible way to judge pitchers". Now though all I'm hearing is his 17-1 record. Great, means he got better run support. If another pitcher has a lower ERA and higher K/BB ratio...then chances are he just didn't get the same breaks and runs from his team.

Lower Walk rate is a little more important than a higher K rate

Ks and Walks Values are not dependent upon each other. K/BB ratio is a bastardized stat that looks accurate. So people will widely accept it.

All that said King Felix>>>Scherzer.

 

[Lord Scalious]

Also

Kuroda>>Darvish

Just to rub it in

 

[Kate Upton]

Lower Walk rate is a little more important than a higher K rate

Ks and Walks Values are not dependent upon each other. K/BB ratio is a bastardized stat that looks accurate. So people will widely accept it.

All that said King Felix>>>Scherzer.

Yep.

But with all that said, 17-1 on a 1st place team would win the Cy if the voting were held today.

 

[Lord Scalious]

Yep.

But with all that said, 17-1 on a 1st place team would win the Cy if the voting were held today.

True. That's probably what happens

I mean, sure Scherzer gets a ton of run support. But he has given up 4 or more earned runs 5 times all year.

Felix and Darvish have all each done that only 5 times as well. You give all 3 of those guys the same exact run support. They probably all about the same record. Felix has pitch more inning then either of them though. So the IP along with the better ERA, ERA+ are what really drive it home for me.

 

[Lord Scalious]

So who are rooting for in this Pirates/ Cards series?

Do you think the Reds still have a good shot at the Division here?

 

[Kate Upton]

True. That's probably what happens

I mean, sure Scherzer gets a ton of run support. But he has given up 4 or more earned runs 5 times all year.

Felix and Darvish have all each done that only 5 times as well. You give all 3 of those guys the same exact run support. They probably all about the same record. Felix has pitch more inning then either of them though. So the IP along with the better ERA, ERA+ are what really drive it home for me.

Oh yeah I'm not arguing who in reality is the better pitcher, I'm just saying how the voting would go.

And that 17-1 record on a high profile 1st place squad would get him the votes.

Darvish has a shot because of the sexy K numbers.

Felix has none.

It's a 2 horse race.

 

[Kate Upton]

So who are rooting for in this Pirates/ Cards series?

Do you think the Reds still have a good shot at the Division here?

Ideally the Cards take 2 of 3. They're only 1.5 behind the Cards, but 4.5 behind the Bucs.

And oh yeah, the division is far from settled. Reds still have 7 games vs the Cards and 6 of their last 9 games of the season are against the Pirates.

Reds still have a good shot. They just have to win games.

 

[Lord Scalious]

Ideally the Cards take 2 of 3. They're only 1.5 behind the Cards, but 4.5 behind the Bucs.

And oh yeah, the division is far from settled. Reds still have 7 games vs the Cards and 6 of their last 9 games of the season are against the Pirates.

Reds still have a good shot. They just have to win games.

Don't worry. Cowboy has been telling me they have no shot. He is all wise and knowing. He got into a tizzy when I called him un-objective. It was fun to watch.

 

[Kate Upton]

Don't worry. Cowboy has been telling me they have no shot. He is all wise and knowing. He got into a tizzy when I called him un-objective. It was fun to watch.

He is brilliant.

I've changed my mind. Season's over. Fuck baseball.

 

[Lord Scalious]

Homer Bailey

Jose Fernandez...still awesome

Boston Bullpen Blows

 

[Kate Upton]

Homer Bailey

Jose Fernandez...still awesome

Boston Bullpen Blows

Fuck Homer

And fuck you.