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Reports: Warriors serious threat to sign Kevin Durant!

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By the way


Not true.

I scored 20 a game in intramurals. Since I could score there, I should be able to get at least double figures in the league, right?

Obviously not. Level matters. Scoring 25 a game in NAIA proves nothing. The competition was inferior and Rodman was far and away the best athlete on the court. Those point totals prove nothing about his ability to score against NBA athletes.

Yes, because it's clearly the same thing. :rolleyes2:
 

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Yes, because it's clearly the same thing. :rolleyes2:

It kind of is.

The talent gap between an intramural league at a big school and NAIA is actually a lot less than the talent gap between the NAIA and the NBA.
 

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It kind of is.

The talent gap between an intramural league at a big school and NAIA is actually a lot less than the talent gap between the NAIA and the NBA.

Okay, if you say so. I'm sure that players in your intramural league had the same talent as Rodman. :rolleyes2:
 

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Okay, if you say so. I'm sure that players in your intramural league had the same talent as Rodman. :rolleyes2:

Neither did the players Rodman went up against. That is my whole point.

I never said the intramural league was better, just that it was closer to NAIA talent than NAIA was to the NBA. Their were many former college players and even a former NBA player who played while I was there (Rick Brunson).

I played on one team that had a former UVA standout and his brother, who was 2 time defensive player of the year in the CAA along with three other guys who played high level D3 ball. So yeah, there was some talent there, and no, I did not score so much that season.
 

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Neither did the players Rodman went up against. That is my whole point.

I never said the intramural league was better, just that it was closer to NAIA talent than NAIA was to the NBA. Their were many former college players and even a former NBA player who played while I was there (Rick Brunson).

I played on one team that had a former UVA standout and his brother, who was 2 time defensive player of the year in the CAA along with three other guys who played high level D3 ball. So yeah, there was some talent there, and no, I did not score so much that season.

The players Rodman went up against were better competition than some intramural league. Hilarious that you have to be told that.
 

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The players Rodman went up against were better competition than some intramural league. Hilarious that you have to be told that.

I never said they weren't.

Go read my post again.
 

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I never said they weren't.

Go read my post again.

I already read it. You're trying to act like an intramural league is somehow comparable to the division that Rodman played in.
 

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Dude. I did not say it was comparable. Never once.

I said there is a huge gap between NBA and NAIA talent. Suggesting that Rodman can score in the NBA because he did in an NAIA league is just silly.

What I also said was that the gap between a top intramural team and NAIA is less than the gap between NAIA and NBA. I stand by that.

Never once did I say intramural talent is comparable.

If Rodman was scoring 25 a game against D1 opponents, then your point might be somewhat valid.
 

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Dude. I did not say it was comparable. Never once.

I said there is a huge gap between NBA and NAIA talent. Suggesting that Rodman can score in the NBA because he did in an NAIA league is just silly.

What I also said was that the gap between a top intramural team and NAIA is less than the gap between NAIA and NBA. I stand by that.

Never once did I say intramural talent is comparable.

If Rodman was scoring 25 a game against D1 opponents, then your point might be somewhat valid.

You dragged your intramurals into it to try and act like it was comparable. You said that you scored 20 per game in intramurals but it didn't mean you could score in the NBA.

Just because Rodman didn't score in the NBA, doesn't mean he couldn't have. He chose to be a rebounding/defensive specialist because he was on teams that had plenty of scorers. We don't know if he could have scored more because he chose not to and didn't work on that part of the game.

For you to try to claim that he couldn't have scored more because of the level of college ball he played is laughable. Based on that argument, he shouldn't have been in the NBA at all. After all, the level of talent he faced sure as hell wasn't preparing him to be an elite rebounder or defender any more than a scorer.
 

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Just want to say that I think it's hilarious how nobody is giving shit to Durant for teaming up with other all stars to win. But when LeBron did it, it was wrong. In before somebody says he was a douche about it, how the decision was publicity stunt, how LeBron is a choke artist, etc. Don't give me any of that BS. Tell me why it's okay for Durant to do this, but not LeBron.
 

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Just want to say that I think it's hilarious how nobody is giving shit to Durant for teaming up with other all stars to win. But when LeBron did it, it was wrong. In before somebody says he was a douche about it, how the decision was publicity stunt, how LeBron is a choke artist, etc. Don't give me any of that BS. Tell me why it's okay for Durant to do this, but not LeBron.

It is and was okay for LeBron. The big difference here though, is that Durant has not actually done it. If he makes this choice, many people will give him crap, at least initially.

People love to hate LeBron though.
 

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Just want to say that I think it's hilarious how nobody is giving shit to Durant for teaming up with other all stars to win. But when LeBron did it, it was wrong. In before somebody says he was a douche about it, how the decision was publicity stunt, how LeBron is a choke artist, etc. Don't give me any of that BS. Tell me why it's okay for Durant to do this, but not LeBron.

Exactly when was it that Durant left to go team up with all-stars?
 

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Exactly when was it that Durant left to go team up with all-stars?

Obviously I mean if this report has actually legs, and Durant ends up with the Warriors. It's very clear that he would be wanting to team up with a championship team to help him bulster his legacy.
 

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Obviously I mean if this report has actually legs, and Durant ends up with the Warriors. It's very clear that he would be wanting to team up with a championship team to help him bulster his legacy.

And I think people will call him out if that in fact happens. I am sure he won't catch as much heat as LeBron though.
 

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Obviously I mean if this report has actually legs, and Durant ends up with the Warriors. It's very clear that he would be wanting to team up with a championship team to help him bulster his legacy.

The difference is that, to my knowledge, KD never promised that he would stay until he brought a title to OKC and he, as yet, hasn't left 2 different teams to team up with superstars.

I'll bet he won't have an hour long special to dump the OKC fans if leaves either.

But, maybe we can wait until he actually leaves before bitching about it?
 

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You dragged your intramurals into it to try and act like it was comparable. You said that you scored 20 per game in intramurals but it didn't mean you could score in the NBA.

Just because Rodman didn't score in the NBA, doesn't mean he couldn't have. He chose to be a rebounding/defensive specialist because he was on teams that had plenty of scorers. We don't know if he could have scored more because he chose not to and didn't work on that part of the game.

For you to try to claim that he couldn't have scored more because of the level of college ball he played is laughable. Based on that argument, he shouldn't have been in the NBA at all. After all, the level of talent he faced sure as hell wasn't preparing him to be an elite rebounder or defender any more than a scorer.

Rodman was a freak athlete, but not very skilled offensively. If he worked more on his skills, he would have been better. But he didn't, and he wasn't.

I am not the one trying to project what he could have done in the NBA based on NAIA stats. I merely used the intramural comment to illustrate the point that you can't project Rodman's scoring talents based on what he did against lesser competition. His scoring prowess in college an be explained entirely by his athleticism. He was physically superior to the players around him, so he did not need a ton of skill to score.
 

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Everyone will chase him. That means nothing.

Also, it isn't like his Texas ties run deep. He spent 1 year there for college.

^^^This^^^

Typical late season FA click bait. Any team that has, or can clear cap space, will be chasing him. At this point, the list of teams that he isn't rumored to be going to is very short.
 
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