Refs

[flamingrey]

Here is my thoughts on what happened after watching some more clips of it and seeing some still shots of it. Before I give my analysis though, I think it was an INT. To me it was a clear INT and how he missed the offensive PI I'll never know, but I'm going to tell you what I think the refs were thinking. Here we go:

Jennings jumps up in the air and gets possession of the ball first, no doubt about that. While his is still in the air, before his feet hit the ground, Tate gets his hands on the ball. As they fall Tate gets his left arm somewhat behind the ball. As they hit the ground now finally completing the catch for one of the 2 it jars Tates left arm behind the ball more while he has his right arm around Jennings shoulder and his right hand is probably on the ball. The refs come in, seeing what they believed that they both had the ball once Jennings 2 feet hit the ground completing the catch. Therefore they decided to call it a catch and a TD on simultaneous possession. Once it went to review I honestly think the refs was affected by the fans as much as anything. If that game was in GB I think they call that an INT.

Let's say for instance that you are right and that is what the refs saw. The easy rebuttal to that is the receiver has to maintain possession of the ball as he hits the ground. This never happens (by the way, this is what simultaneous possession looks like t... on Twitpic). Therefore, in a normal circumstance it's an incomplete pass; however, because the ball never hits the ground and the CB gains/retains possession as they're on the ground, it's an interception.

No matter what justification the refs or the league uses, calling it a TD is incorrect. It's a complicated situation because of everything that happens, but the final answer is black and white. There is no gray area here.

 

[cincygrad]

What would have happened if they called it an interception? Do you think the Seattle fans would (incorrectly) say they were robbed because the catch was simultaneous?

 

[kramer1]

What would have happened if they called it an interception? Do you think the Seattle fans would (incorrectly) say they were robbed because the catch was simultaneous?

Um....no?

 

[cincygrad]

I think they would. Again, I think they'd be wrong, but given the refs clearly suck the fans are ready to argue every call.

The simple fact is that the NFL should be embarrassed. They tried to save a few bucks while risking the integrity of the game. The last 2 weeks have been jokes and when week 17 rolls around some teams are going to be on the bubble because of bad calls in week 2. Goodel is a terrible commish and should be replaced.

 

[kramer1]

I think they would. Again, I think they'd be wrong, but given the refs clearly suck the fans are ready to argue every call.

The simple fact is that the NFL should be embarrassed. They tried to save a few bucks while risking the integrity of the game. The last 2 weeks have been jokes and when week 17 rolls around some teams are going to be on the bubble because of bad calls in week 2. Goodel is a terrible commish and should be replaced.

I guess it's good to be a Bengals fan then! We commit more retarded penalties than the Republican party. Maybe we can sneak a few through?

 

[cincygrad]

I guess it's good to be a Bengals fan then! We commit more retarded penalties than the Republican party. Maybe we can sneak a few through?

I'm fairly sure that the Romney campaign makes the replacements look like experts.

Unfortunately for the Bengals, even I can call a false start -- We don't even commit the right penalties to succeed.

 

[vancelot23]

The referee who made the TD call had never refereed a game above the Division III level.

 

[kramer1]

It's not the refs fault, though. You can't be mad at them.

 

[BigBlueNation111]

The referee who made the TD call had never refereed a game above the Division III level.

 

[jwil007]

another ref flew home and reffed an 8th grade game....DAMN! LOL Man I wish I could get some of this money...LOL

 

[DanBengalfan]

another ref flew home and reffed an 8th grade game....DAMN! LOL Man I wish I could get some of this money...LOL

 

[CrashDavisSports]

It's not the refs fault, though. You can't be mad at them.

I agree. They were in over their head from the beginning. It is Goodell's fault 100%.

 

[jwil007]

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Exactly!

 

[DanBengalfan]

 

[icehole3]

cant wait for the old refs to come back and start fucking up

 

[DanBengalfan]

If we're going to have goofy amateur refs that no one takes seriously like this, why can't we have hot female refs instead of old has been junior high school refs?

 

[DanBengalfan]

the shit is over.

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