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Series Thread: Red Wings and Lightning - Round 1

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Hey, he has great numbers in April, they just stop because the Oilers season comes to an end after game 82.

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Did you know that no one has ever tweeted about an Oilers playoff game?
 
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Hey, WW 88, where's the Game 4 thread? I know that you're busy, but, when it comes to the Wings, nobody can be too busy to not get off the world's rotating merry-go-round and focus totally on Hockeytown's Big Show!
 

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Game Time!! I hope the good things done in game four continue tonight.

Just hoping the Wings we seen back around X-mas shows up again!!

LGRW!!!
 

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Smith not putting up with any of callahan's shit
 

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nashville wins. game 5 will be 6pm sat. also means fox sports detroit gets the game
 
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What the hell has happened to Kronwall? Recently, his play has been detrimental to the Wings success far more than it has ever been before. For an assigned #1 dman, he certainly shows some of his failings far too often for the better side of his team. How many times of late have we seen him miss a simple pass (without the instance of a bouncing puck)? It seems that it has been coming down to a coin flip whether he can either keep a pass on his tape or be able to make a successful connection to deliver the puck to a teammate's stick. On the other side of the puck, how often have we seen him back up so deep into his zone when an opposition player skates in on our net minder with the puck, where we find him not only screening his goalie but also is so far in the crease that it prevents the goalie's mobility from making a reasonable save. In some of those incidents, he would have been able to create a much more successful result by stopping short of the paint and putting a body on the puck carrier in order to lessen any opportunity for the opposition's success to finish what they had set out to do. In yesterday's game, he did a very similar thing on the second Lightning goal, although he was to the left of Mrazek on that play. As the play got deep into the Detroit zone, he attempted to reach with his stick to poke-check the puck, but the puck got to Mrazek, and the trailer, who had got behind Ericsson, scored the equalizer. In that case, Kronwall could have greatly improved his chances to eliminate that play by changing his defensive strategy by merely standing up the onrushing puck-carrier as opposed to continuing to backing up. But, he has been doing that same thing for so long now, that what was once a commonplace occurrence of his to bring that similar play to a screeching halt, now seems to only be a memory in the minds of past fans of long ago.
In another aspect of his more modern style of play, we will see him at times fanning on a pass to a teammate in his own zone, or by doing his usual waiting to make a play, deliver that pass to an opposing fore-checker. The front edge of the chairs of so many observing Wings' fans have shown signs of wear from his recent play out of the D-zone. And, speaking of his carrying the puck out of his end, he tends to resorting to that in lieu of an outlet pass far too often when on the PP, which kills the time on the clock; which brings up another point of why he is on the first unit in the first place. He makes too many mistakes in the O-zone in those situations - failure to hold the line when the puck comes to his side of the ice, bailing out too early, mostly because of his lack of foot speed compared to that of many of the opposing forwards who are defending in their end, and, lastly, his inefficiency of getting the puck to the net. For the most part, he generally finds the equipment of the defenders with his shots, or, if they do get through, most of them are clearly nowhere between the pipes, as was the case yesterday, when he took a shot from about 4 meters from the TB net. The shot got through, but it's final destination was not between the posts. There certainly are better choices for the #1 PP group than him who are carrying far less baggage than him. Where have you gone Niklas Kronwall - the one that we once seemed to know so well?
 

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What the hell has happened to Kronwall? Recently, his play has been detrimental to the Wings success far more than it has ever been before. For an assigned #1 dman, he certainly shows some of his failings far too often for the better side of his team. How many times of late have we seen him miss a simple pass (without the instance of a bouncing puck)? It seems that it has been coming down to a coin flip whether he can either keep a pass on his tape or be able to make a successful connection to deliver the puck to a teammate's stick. On the other side of the puck, how often have we seen him back up so deep into his zone when an opposition player skates in on our net minder with the puck, where we find him not only screening his goalie but also is so far in the crease that it prevents the goalie's mobility from making a reasonable save. In some of those incidents, he would have been able to create a much more successful result by stopping short of the paint and putting a body on the puck carrier in order to lessen any opportunity for the opposition's success to finish what they had set out to do. In yesterday's game, he did a very similar thing on the second Lightning goal, although he was to the left of Mrazek on that play. As the play got deep into the Detroit zone, he attempted to reach with his stick to poke-check the puck, but the puck got to Mrazek, and the trailer, who had got behind Ericsson, scored the equalizer. In that case, Kronwall could have greatly improved his chances to eliminate that play by changing his defensive strategy by merely standing up the onrushing puck-carrier as opposed to continuing to backing up. But, he has been doing that same thing for so long now, that what was once a commonplace occurrence of his to bring that similar play to a screeching halt, now seems to only be a memory in the minds of past fans of long ago.
In another aspect of his more modern style of play, we will see him at times fanning on a pass to a teammate in his own zone, or by doing his usual waiting to make a play, deliver that pass to an opposing fore-checker. The front edge of the chairs of so many observing Wings' fans have shown signs of wear from his recent play out of the D-zone. And, speaking of his carrying the puck out of his end, he tends to resorting to that in lieu of an outlet pass far too often when on the PP, which kills the time on the clock; which brings up another point of why he is on the first unit in the first place. He makes too many mistakes in the O-zone in those situations - failure to hold the line when the puck comes to his side of the ice, bailing out too early, mostly because of his lack of foot speed compared to that of many of the opposing forwards who are defending in their end, and, lastly, his inefficiency of getting the puck to the net. For the most part, he generally finds the equipment of the defenders with his shots, or, if they do get through, most of them are clearly nowhere between the pipes, as was the case yesterday, when he took a shot from about 4 meters from the TB net. The shot got through, but it's final destination was not between the posts. There certainly are better choices for the #1 PP group than him who are carrying far less baggage than him. Where have you gone Niklas Kronwall - the one that we once seemed to know so well?
He was hurt near the end of the season, probably has a lot to do with it.

Also, he's 34. No spring chicken.
 

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Tampa is the better team and everything needs to go the Wings way in order for them to win...it did for two (almost 3 games). Tampa played like Tampa for the last 5 minutes or so and in OT and the final score reflects that.

The playoff streak is becoming a detriment. Every year I look forward to saying "Yes, the Wings make the playoffs again" but that seems to almost be the end of the season for them now. Keeping the playoff streak alive seems to be the new Cup for the team and it's fans.

I'd love to say the series has been great but the Wings really played a complete game one time. There is a lot of uncertainty with the franchise right now and I am sure it isn't helping. While they are professionals, not knowing what next year holds has to be weighing on them a bit (with Babcock most likely leaving).

At least the Red Wings goal tending situation has light at the end of the tunnel.
 

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Wings need to stay aggressive here, rather than playing the prevent garbage.
 

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I think that the Wings are going to have to eventually shop Howard. He had a terrific year up to when he got hurt. It was another groin injury and he's had those every year. I don't think he was fully recovered from this last one when he returned. He was not good after that. Now Mrazek seems to have stepped into the job. If he continues his consistent good play, not the inconsistency he displayed earlier, it'll be real tough to tell him he's the back up. With Howard's propensity to be hampered by continuing groin injuries, he may serve better as a back up.
 
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