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Rapoport: Anthony Dixon on the trading block

imac_21

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I'd say you are undervaluing him. He played well last year when he finally got playing time. You can't just assume that he has nothing to offer simply because he is inactive each week. He is inactive because they don't need him right now. Their is no point to keeping James and Hunter on the active roster when only 1 of them is going to get any carries.

I'd consider a 3rd round ok value for him, but I'd also take a 3rd for Hunter. There is no reason to just give away either of them. Dixon is the one you would want to get rid of but who would actually trade for him? He is not a very good running back and teams don't typically make trades for special team players.

Williams though I guess take what you can get. Again though he is just not very good. They might could fleece a team for a 6th. I guess you're right though might as well get what you can get rather than have to release anyone. I still would not move Hunter or James though unless the offer was right. They are still both on very manageable rookie contracts. Hunter only has 1 more year on his deal though so the 49ers do have to decide if they are going to pay him or not probably during the offseason.

I am valuing James as worth less than a 2nd round pick. That's all. How is that undervaluing him? I'm not assuming he has nothing to offer. I know he brings some unique skills to the field. However, he plays one of the most replaceable positions in the game, and is good for probably about 10 touches per game. He also isn't all that explosive and his lateral ability is vastly overrated. There is a reason he is always inactive. The fact that you give LMJ greater value than Hunter serves as strong evidence you strongly overvalue him. People talk like they have similar skill sets. If we assume that's true (it's not, Hunter does a lot more), then the guy who gets to play must have more value. You admit this at the end of your first paragraph, but still say James has more value.
 

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I think Moody eventually ends up on normal IR (assuming that is possible, not sure of the details behind designated to return IR). As of right now it does not look like we need him for ILB depth or special teams.

We only have 3 ILB on the roster. Moody is also likely better than Skuta.

And we're going to be making some cuts to create room for the other 5 guys which could create issues on ST.
 

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I am valuing James as worth less than a 2nd round pick. That's all. How is that undervaluing him? I'm not assuming he has nothing to offer. I know he brings some unique skills to the field. However, he plays one of the most replaceable positions in the game, and is good for probably about 10 touches per game. He also isn't all that explosive and his lateral ability is vastly overrated. There is a reason he is always inactive. The fact that you give LMJ greater value than Hunter serves as strong evidence you strongly overvalue him. People talk like they have similar skill sets. If we assume that's true (it's not, Hunter does a lot more), then the guy who gets to play must have more value. You admit this at the end of your first paragraph, but still say James has more value.

Mainly because we have more control over James future right now. James also has value as a primary backup and return man going forward. James also would seemingly be better out of the backfield for some passing plays or WR sweeps. It's these things that I believe give James more value to the 49ers going into next year than Hunter does. Hunter is mostly just a backup running back and safety net in case Gore goes down.

Unless they believe Hunter has more to offer than just being Gore's backup he won't be on the team past next season when they will have to sign him to a new deal. Gore, Hunter, and Lattimore just makes no sense. Gore, Lattimore, and James though does if James ends up the primary return man.
 

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trade him so harbaugh can't use him anymore on the goal line
 

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Mainly because we have more control over James future right now. James also has value as a primary backup and return man going forward. James also would seemingly be better out of the backfield for some passing plays or WR sweeps. It's these things that I believe give James more value to the 49ers going into next year than Hunter does. Hunter is mostly just a backup running back and safety net in case Gore goes down.

Unless they believe Hunter has more to offer than just being Gore's backup he won't be on the team past next season when they will have to sign him to a new deal. Gore, Hunter, and Lattimore just makes no sense. Gore, Lattimore, and James though does if James ends up the primary return man.

Hunter is much more a primary backup than James. He's a way tougher runner. I also don't know that James has more value as a return man. He returned a total of 14 punts and 3 kickoffs in his career at Oregon. With SF he has 15 KR and 0 PR. There's nothing there that suggests he's a big time return specialist.

Because he spent so much time in open space at Oregon people seem to think he's Darren Sproles. He's not. He's a straight line runner that loses a lot of speed whenever he has to cut. He's not good at making people miss.
 

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We only have 3 ILB on the roster. Moody is also likely better than Skuta.

And we're going to be making some cuts to create room for the other 5 guys which could create issues on ST.

I was thinking Skuta could play ILB in a pinch. But you're right, the staff seems to see him as an OLB. Why do you think Moody is likely better than Skuta?

As for your second point-agreed. Guess it depends on who is cut.
 

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I was thinking Skuta could play ILB in a pinch. But you're right, the staff seems to see him as an OLB. Why do you think Moody is likely better than Skuta?

As for your second point-agreed. Guess it depends on who is cut.

Sorry, meant Stupar. Moody is likely better than Stupar.
 
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