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averagejoe

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Wil continues to tease.
 

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I think it was Sam who suggested I do a Brett Favre - so I should tease, have a bad year in New York, have a decent couple of years in the B League, and send pictures of my... gack, I don't want to be Favre.
 

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I think it was Sam who suggested I do a Brett Favre - so I should tease, have a bad year in New York, have a decent couple of years in the B League, and send pictures of my... gack, I don't want to be Favre.

Will. Step away from the cell phone!
 

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So when does Wil "Favre" need our lists?
 

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September 1st.
 

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24 QBs and 36 RBs.
 

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So when does Wil "Favre" need our lists?

This is great. I will look forward to putting my list together later in August. Never fared well in this format but will try again.
And Will...you were just a few seconds away from a clean get away...but we keep drawing you back in.
 

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24 QBs and 36 RBs.

Wil, if you need me to run this i dont mind... I have ideas... I am very comfortable with Excel formulas and graphs... Just in case you needed my resume...
 

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Bump.
 

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#1. Lesean McCoy
#2 Montee Ball
#3 Jamaal Charles
#4 Matt Forte
#5 D. Murray
#6 Adrian Peterson
#7 Giovani Bernard
#8 Eddie Lacy
#9 Zac Stacy
#10 Marshawn Lynch
#11 Doug Martin
#12 Arian Foster
#13 Ryan mathews
#14 Reggie Bush
#15 Frank Gore
#16 Alfred Morris
#17 Joquie Bell
#18 Toby Gerhert
#19 Levon Bell
#20. Chris Johnson
#21 Shane Vareen
#22 Terrence West
#23 Andre Ellingotn
#24 Fred Jackson
#25 Ray Rice
#26 Lamaar Miller
#27 Steven Jackson
#28 Trent Richardson
#29 Andre Williams
#30 Darren McFadden
#31 Rashaad Jennings
#32 CJ Spiller
#33 Darren Sproles
#34 Mark Ingram
#35 Legerrette Blount
#36 Bishop Sankey
#36 Shonn Green
 

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Should we start a new thread????? I was thinking I never posted rankings this year and didn't think I had Foster ranked 2nd RB..............then looked at the date of the post.
 

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6 Andrew Luck, Ind
7 Colin Kaepernick, SF
8 Matt Ryan, Atl
9 Cam Newton, Car
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11 Ben Roethlisberger, Pit
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17 Andy Dalton, Cin
18 Joe Flacco, Bal
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Milk (and whoever else cares) -

It goes by how far off you are, weighted by how high you have them ranked.

Raw score goes from +6 (for having exactly the right ranking) to -18 by being off by 24 spots (I capped it there so there aren't ridiculously punitive negative numbers). So if you're six spots off it's a wash; better than that is positive; worse is negative.

It's weighted by the square of the inverse order of the rankings, divided by 100 (so top QB rank is multiplied by 24*24/100, or 5.76, 10th QB is multiplied by 15*15/100, or 2.25, the 20th by 5*5/100 or .25....)

Since we have 36 RBs as opposed to 24 QBs, the inverse order is multiplied by 2/3 before squaring to balance out (36*2/3 is 24, so the top RB is still weighted by 24*24/100).

(One minor flaw here is that if you have someone ranked very low you get a small negative effect if they do extremely well, while people who don't have them ranked at all get off scot-free. This happened to me with Moreno and Stacy last year.)

Because of the 24 vs. 36 issue, I'm toying with the idea that 9 spots off would be a wash for RB (instead of 6), but the raw score would also be multiplied by 2/3 to keep it even with QBs. The cap for being off would shift to 36 from 24, also keeping even.
 

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Milk (and whoever else cares) -

It goes by how far off you are, weighted by how high you have them ranked.

Raw score goes from +6 (for having exactly the right ranking) to -18 by being off by 24 spots (I capped it there so there aren't ridiculously punitive negative numbers). So if you're six spots off it's a wash; better than that is positive; worse is negative.

It's weighted by the square of the inverse order of the rankings, divided by 100 (so top QB rank is multiplied by 24*24/100, or 5.76, 10th QB is multiplied by 15*15/100, or 2.25, the 20th by 5*5/100 or .25....)

Since we have 36 RBs as opposed to 24 QBs, the inverse order is multiplied by 2/3 before squaring to balance out (36*2/3 is 24, so the top RB is still weighted by 24*24/100).

(One minor flaw here is that if you have someone ranked very low you get a small negative effect if they do extremely well, while people who don't have them ranked at all get off scot-free. This happened to me with Moreno and Stacy last year.)

Because of the 24 vs. 36 issue, I'm toying with the idea that 9 spots off would be a wash for RB (instead of 6), but the raw score would also be multiplied by 2/3 to keep it even with QBs. The cap for being off would shift to 36 from 24, also keeping even.
 

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QB
1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Tom Brady
5. Matt Ryan
6. Matthew Stafford
7. Nick Foles
8. Colin Kaepernick
9. Jay Cutler
10. Andrew Luck
11. tony Romo
12. Ben Roethlisberger
13. RG3
14. Andy Dalton
15. Philip Rivers
16. Ryan Tannehill
17.Jake Locker
18. Eli Manning
19. Cam newton
20. sam Bradford
21. Carson Palmer
22. Alex Smith
23. EJ Manuel
24. Josh McKnown

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RB
1. AP
2. McCoy
3. Charles
4. Lacy
5. Lynch
6. Ball
7. Forte
8. alfred morris
9. zac stacy
10. andre ellington
11. demarco murray
12. chris johnson
13. TRENT RICHARDSON
14. giovani benard
15. doug martin
16. cj spiller
17. bishop sankey
18. Ryan Matthews
19. Shane Vereen
20. leveon bell
21. reggie bush
22. stevan ridley
23. frank gore
24. davonta freeman
25. lamar miller
26. rashad jennings
27. toby gerhart
28. ben tate
29. arian foster
30. khiry robinson
31. maurice jones drew
32. andre williams
33. carlos hyde
34. jerrick mckinnon
35. ray rice
36. terrence west
 
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