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Series Thread: Rangers Host the Padres For Three Games July 2-4

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Offense - F
Starting Pitching - B
Relief Pitching - C
Defense - B-
 

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When Jankowski is your DH you've pretty much waved the white flag.
 

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Sincere question: why even bring deGrom back this season? Useless innings on a 30mil per year arm coming off 2nd TJ surgery...for a team with zero postseason possibilities.

He needs to pitch in meaningful games. With his injury history...why risk it?
 

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Sincere question: why even bring deGrom back this season? Useless innings on a 30mil per year arm coming off 2nd TJ surgery...for a team with zero postseason possibilities.

He needs to pitch in meaningful games. With his injury history...why risk it?
Good observation.
 

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Sincere question: why even bring deGrom back this season? Useless innings on a 30mil per year arm coming off 2nd TJ surgery...for a team with zero postseason possibilities.

He needs to pitch in meaningful games. With his injury history...why risk it?
He can use this season to ramp up his innings some. To go more innings next season, he needs some this season. If he goes almost 2 years without pitching and you need him to pitch 150 or more innings next year, he will get hurt again. He needs at least 50 to 75 innings this year to partially ramp up.
 

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He can use this season to ramp up his innings some. To go more innings next season, he needs some this season. If he goes almost 2 years without pitching and you need him to pitch 150 or more innings next year, he will get hurt again. He needs at least 50 to 75 innings this year to partially ramp up.
I see your point. But after September he will just shut it down again until spring training and the ramp up begins anew.

Rangers have to get the most and best return from an investment like Jacob deGrom. Making 5-6 starts this year for a team clearly out of it seems very risky.

Rather see Bradford and Leiter get those starts to really assess where they are going into 2025.

Don't get me wrong. I can't wait to see deGrom return. But not in a season already over.
 

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I see your point. But after September he will just shut it down again until spring training and the ramp up begins anew.

Rangers have to get the most and best return from an investment like Jacob deGrom. Making 5-6 starts this year for a team clearly out of it seems very risky.

Rather see Bradford and Leiter get those starts to really assess where they are going into 2025.

Don't get me wrong. I can't wait to see deGrom return. But not in a season already over.
Well, we will have to disagree on deGrom. Leiter too, I guess. I want him to spend the whole season at Round Rock. He isn't ready.

The eventual rotation this year should be:

Degrom
Bradford
Gray
Mahle
Dunning

The other starters should be traded. Urena can pitch in the rotation until deGrom gets back in the middle of August. Of course, part of the return for those starters may be a AAA starting pitcher who we want to see pitch for us this year.
 

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after September he will just shut it down again until spring training and the ramp up begins anew.
A ramp up after an offseason is no big deal. Every pitcher does that. A ramp up after 21 months off is completely different.
 

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Hans Crouse has not allowed a run in his first 7 innings with the Angels. But at least we got a couple of years of Spencer Howard.
 

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Looking at the upcoming schedule I think we could go 16-21 between now and the AS break. That would put us at 45-51.
10-18 since then with 9 games to go. I was too optimistic.
 
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