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Series Thread: Rangers at that dump in Oakland 6/16-18

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There's no way we don't have an OF in the minors better than Robertson. This guy just flat out is not ML caliber. Seems like a nice guy, but he's nothing more than a pinch runner at this level.
Do we have a OF tonight?
 

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There's no way we don't have an OF in the minors better than Robertson. This guy just flat out is not ML caliber. Seems like a nice guy, but he's nothing more than a pinch runner at this level.

I was thinking the same thing. We picked this guy up and stuck him on the team soon after.
 

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Didn't the Padres dump him? That tells you something...

We really are weak in the OF. Our better OF is Smolinski at Frisco so that is not such a great idea. We seemed more stocked with IF and C. Tanaka has been playing LF at RR. Aducci was our best option and we know how that turned out.
 

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• Gwynn had six straight seasons (and eight altogether) in which he struck out fewer than 20 times. Did you know there were 97 hitters in the big leagues who whiffed at least 20 times just last month?
• Finally, what does it mean to have piled up a .338 batting average over a 20-year career, over 9,288 at-bats? It means Tony Gwynn would have had to go 0-for-his-next-1,183 to get his average to fall under .300 (and even then, it would have "plummeted" to a mere .29997). He hit .400 or better against eight different Cy Young winners -- Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Bret Saberhagen, Vida Blue, John Denny, Dennis Eckersley, Mark Davis and Doug Drabek -- and batted at least .300 against seven more.
• He racked up 39 hits off Maddux (39-for-94, .415), 32 against Smoltz (32-for-72, .444) and 30 against Tom Glavine (30-for-99, .303).
• And none of these pitchers ever struck him out: Pedro Martinez (35 AB), Hideo Nomo (25 AB), Mike Hampton (33 AB) or, incredibly, Maddux (in 94 AB).
In the 14 seasons from 1984 through 1997, Gwynn finished in the top five in the batting race 13 times. And in the only season he didn't -- in 1990 -- he missed by one hit.
• He had three different seasons in which he hit .370 or higher. In the 73 years since Ted Williams last hit .400, all the other hitters who passed through the big leagues -- a group that includes Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial, Willie Mays, Wade Boggs, yadda, yadda, yadda -- combined to do it only eight times.
 

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Coco Crispies...the A's Kyle Seager....

Things are about to implode...whew, dodged that one...
 
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We really are weak in the OF. Our better OF is Smolinski at Frisco so that is not such a great idea. We seemed more stocked with IF and C. Tanaka has been playing LF at RR. Aducci was our best option and we know how that turned out.
Not too strong at first either. On the job training over there.
 

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Hey, a shutdown inning. At 30 minutes per inning I will miss a lot of this game.
 

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If Colby goes six, I'm personally going to wake up DT. But his pitch count is up too.
 

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• Gwynn had six straight seasons (and eight altogether) in which he struck out fewer than 20 times. Did you know there were 97 hitters in the big leagues who whiffed at least 20 times just last month?
• Finally, what does it mean to have piled up a .338 batting average over a 20-year career, over 9,288 at-bats? It means Tony Gwynn would have had to go 0-for-his-next-1,183 to get his average to fall under .300 (and even then, it would have "plummeted" to a mere .29997). He hit .400 or better against eight different Cy Young winners -- Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Bret Saberhagen, Vida Blue, John Denny, Dennis Eckersley, Mark Davis and Doug Drabek -- and batted at least .300 against seven more.
• He racked up 39 hits off Maddux (39-for-94, .415), 32 against Smoltz (32-for-72, .444) and 30 against Tom Glavine (30-for-99, .303).
• And none of these pitchers ever struck him out: Pedro Martinez (35 AB), Hideo Nomo (25 AB), Mike Hampton (33 AB) or, incredibly, Maddux (in 94 AB).
In the 14 seasons from 1984 through 1997, Gwynn finished in the top five in the batting race 13 times. And in the only season he didn't -- in 1990 -- he missed by one hit.
• He had three different seasons in which he hit .370 or higher. In the 73 years since Ted Williams last hit .400, all the other hitters who passed through the big leagues -- a group that includes Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial, Willie Mays, Wade Boggs, yadda, yadda, yadda -- combined to do it only eight times.

Plus I believe he had 8 batting titles. But 338 career average is crazy. In the NL the leading hitter has not hit that high in the last 4 years.
 

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Not too strong at first either. On the job training over there.

We actually have quite a few guys in AA that can play 1st and are hitting well. It seems we call up the ones that have no future in the organization. Robertson has been a career minor leaguer and we're seeing why. Snyder is a 32 year old that like you said is learning on the job. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
 
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Hey, June 22 is Coco Crisp Garden Gnome Night at the sewer pit...get your tickets today! ( it's the ad behind home plate...):laugh3:
 

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There's no way we don't have an OF in the minors better than Robertson. This guy just flat out is not ML caliber. Seems like a nice guy, but he's nothing more than a pinch runner at this level.

AAA - Jared Hoying, Carlos Arroyo, Bryan Peterson, Ryan Strausborger, Kensuke Tanaka

AA - Teodoro Martinez, Drew Robinson, Jake Skole & Smolinski

Not saying you're wrong but the pickings are slim
 

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Shitty stadiums are the new market inefficiency!
 

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We have one of the worst defensive OF in the majors, if not the worst.

I really can't address many other teams. However, we've got an average/above average CF in Martin and same for RF with Rios IMO. Choo is horrible in LF and Choice struggles there too. But MC seems to play better in CF/RF than he does in LF but that's where he's got to get most of his AB.

We have two OF on our 40 man roster, Aducci/Beltre who are both on the DL. So I guess we're not going to get much help from below.
 

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We actually have quite a few guys in AA that can play 1st and are hitting well. It seems we call up the ones that have no future in the organization. Robertson has been a career minor leaguer and we're seeing why. Snyder is a 32 year old that like you said is learning on the job. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Well, that's on JD, not Wash, I believe. Not sure what the thinking is going in over there.
 

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AAA - Jared Hoying, Carlos Arroyo, Bryan Peterson, Ryan Strausborger, Kensuke Tanaka

AA - Teodoro Martinez, Drew Robinson, Jake Skole & Smolinski

Not saying you're wrong but the pickings are slim

You are right. Peterson was hot but not anymore and Smolinski had been on a roll. But probably not ready for the bigs.
 
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