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Is it possible the defensive decisions at LB (about 9 of your 10 gripes above) are in the hands of the DC?

Corum is the #3 RB right now. His only carries have been garbage time in a blow out. It's time to accept that the rhetoric that he was going usurp Kyren quickly was a miss. He's depth should Kyren get hurt as he is a very similar player generally.

Its funny to see the Atwell rhetoric is now shifting from "why they hell did they draft this little turd" to "why couldn't McVay make this work sooner" lol.

Barring a controversy, McVay is the head coach moving forward until he decides to not be. Most of the shortcomings this season have been direct results of injuries and shifting to depth players to try to keep the boat afloat. Even so, they've been in 3 close games against 2 postseason favorites and a Bears team on the rise and one blowout vs a division opponent.
Of course they shouldn’t have drafted Atwell, but they did. Thus, it is on McVay to find a way to use him and he has never done that. That’s on him, he made the pick.

Just like they were so excited at the draft to take Corum- and for what? So he can sit behind midget Rivers who has never done anything?

And trading EJ was absolutely on McVay. He gets rid of anyone that he deems is a problem. Jones wanted a new contract, Rams don’t pay for LBers, thus Jones was going to be a “problem”, and they traded him for garbage when they could’ve kept him and got a better como pick when he left in FA.

Those are all terrible football decisions, and they all land at McVay’s feet.
 
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It does not fall solely on the DC, its the collective bunch of dipshits that caused the problem. AD retiring was going to leave a hole no doubt, but trading a defensive captain away for no good reason at all, no backup plan along with the poor upkeep on that side of the ball is what got us here. Mcvay is the HEAD coach at the end of the day, so he should have a say in personnel. But if you waste a 2nd round pick on a guy who is sparingly used then thats coaching malpractice, wasting a 3rd on a RB who doesn't see the field when clearly other needs were there is coaching mal practice. Refusing to shift to the run game more and sprinkle little wrinkles here and there when clearly your team is hurting is coaching mal practice.

This guy has to take the blame for his mess and he needs to be put on the hot seat for allowing these personnel moves alone.

We all know McVay is an offense guy. Sure, he's the head coach, but has to be taking input from his DC (and GM) as to defensive player decisions.

Clearly there was a reason they traded him away, it just hasn't been released for public consumption.

You're working under the assumption that draft picks should be needs based only. They're building a roster with as much talent as possible, for needs now and beyond. Drafting a guy in the 3rd doesn't mean he leap frogs the contributors already on the roster that are making more than he is and have experience with the team and staff.

McVay absolutely deserves criticism, especially for the offensive game plan. But claiming he should be jettisoned for a LB trade is absolutely ludicrous.
 

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Of course they shouldn’t have drafted Atwell, but they did. Thus, it is on McVay to find a way to use him and he has never done that. That’s on him, he made the pick.

Just like they were so excited at the draft to take Corum- and for what? So he can sit behind midget Rivers who has never done anything?

And trading EJ was absolutely on McVay. He gets rid of anyone that he deems is a problem. Jones wanted a new contract, Rams don’t pay for LBers, thus Jones was going to be a “problem”, and they traded him for garbage when they could’ve kept him and got a better como pick when he left in FA.

Those are all terrible football decisions, and they all land at McVay’s feet.

Many here don't like Rivers. He has been effective in his limited use (10 carries for 51 yards through 4 games). Virtually all the RB touches have been Kyren's, which is appropriate. If they were to go to a heavier run scheme, then sure Rivers would get more use (and potentially Corum). Game scripts have not necessitated Corum to be involved yet. 21.5 touches (carries and catches) per game is not excessive for Kyren.

If you know the reason for EJ getting dumped (and it's at least partially about money), then it's at least partially on the GM, not exclusively McVay. Do we know that EJ wouldn't hold out waiting for his new contract? Maybe that's what pushed the trade.
 

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This article does a decent job of outlining what ails the defense under Shula and the details point to a possible early departure of Shula for a couple of DC proposed replacements possibly as early as the Bye week. Maybe?

 

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Fiske was def close to beating-out Verse for that honor. Like BattleLyon stated, the ShitferBrains Twins now need to find the same hit-for-the-fences ILB in the 2025 upcoming draft.
 

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Devin White released by the Eagles. Is he broken? Didn't play a snap for them. Still pretty young, could be a great addition to the Rams LB room?
 

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don't think he's broken but the LBs they have pretty much showed that they still deserve time on the field, a good problem to have actually. So in point it's as if he's the odd man out, so i'd welcome him coming to LA to shore up what needs to be shored up at LB/ILB.. These 2 shitbirds currently aren't cutting it.
 

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Agreed. White may help. Dude is an All-Pro which is way more than what we currently have at ILB.

Hadn't seem him play in a while, and for the Eagles (who haven't been all that stout defensively) cut him loose caused some confusion...
 

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I believe the knock on him is the hesitation on going down hill to the ball carrier, something thats problematic with both our ILBs but still his overall is still 10x better than what we have
 

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It is quite apparent that the Rams are considering moving the rest of the big three. Since AD retired and with the evident continuing decline in performance of Stafford and Kupp due to age and injuries, various trade scenarios are emerging.

Stafford and the Raidas trade packages have been gaining traction. Kupp now joins the clatter in various trade packages. If the Rams can get good assets for these players instead of giving these players away for next to nothing should be on the forefront to get something done before the trade deadline.

Unfortunately, The ShitferBrains Twins, historically, cannot be trusted to get decent worth-based assets in return for players that are basically at the end of their careers. Like accepting First Round picks between the two of these dopes, the ShitferBrains Twins should amass a slew of picks for Stafford and Kupp.

We shall see how this plays out and hopefully the Rams can rebuild because they ain't going anywhere in the post season this year!

 

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It is quite apparent that the Rams are considering moving the rest of the big three. Since AD retired and with the evident continuing decline in performance of Stafford and Kupp due to age and injuries, various trade scenarios are emerging.

Stafford and the Raidas trade packages have been gaining traction. Kupp now joins the clatter in various trade packages. If the Rams can get good assets for these players instead of giving these players away for next to nothing should be on the forefront to get something done before the trade deadline.

Unfortunately, The ShitferBrains Twins, historically, cannot be trusted to get decent worth-based assets in return for players that are basically at the end of their careers. Like accepting First Round picks between the two of these dopes, the ShitferBrains Twins should amass a slew of picks for Stafford and Kupp.

We shall see how this plays out and hopefully the Rams can rebuild because they ain't going anywhere in the post season this year!


These trade projections are way too early IMO and not based in reality. Sure, they're 1-4. However, only one of those losses was bad (Cardinals) and they beat the Niners. Close losses to the Lions, Packers and Bears. I can't see them trading Kupp or especially Stafford unless they were on board and wanted out. These writers are just generating views with these ideas.

I think most of their issues are correctable as they get healthier. All 4 teams in the NFC West are separated by 2 games, too early to panic.
 

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It is quite apparent that the Rams are considering moving the rest of the big three. Since AD retired and with the evident continuing decline in performance of Stafford and Kupp due to age and injuries, various trade scenarios are emerging.

Stafford and the Raidas trade packages have been gaining traction. Kupp now joins the clatter in various trade packages. If the Rams can get good assets for these players instead of giving these players away for next to nothing should be on the forefront to get something done before the trade deadline.

Unfortunately, The ShitferBrains Twins, historically, cannot be trusted to get decent worth-based assets in return for players that are basically at the end of their careers. Like accepting First Round picks between the two of these dopes, the ShitferBrains Twins should amass a slew of picks for Stafford and Kupp.

We shall see how this plays out and hopefully the Rams can rebuild because they ain't going anywhere in the post season this year!

Why would the Raiders do that?

They aren’t a contender, and Stafford is old.

They are better off playing AOC, and if he isn’t the answer, they draft a QB this next year.
 

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Why would the Raiders do that?

They aren’t a contender, and Stafford is old.

They are better off playing AOC, and if he isn’t the answer, they draft a QB this next year.
Why would the Raidas do that? To move an oft-injured, aging, disgruntled WR in Adams that McShitferBrains is getting a stiffy over and Pierce wants outta of Vegas. If we could get the Raidas to go for say Stafford for Adams and a Number 1 and 2 or a 2 and 3, that would be a decent trade for both teams. Yes?
 

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Why would the Raidas do that? To move an oft-injured, aging, disgruntled WR in Adams that McShitferBrains is getting a stiffy over and Pierce wants outta of Vegas. If we could get the Raidas to go for say Stafford for Adams and a Number 1 and 2 or a 2 and 3, that would be a decent trade for both teams. Yes?
Why would the Rams trade Stafford if they're getting an old Adams? Their timelines match up.
 
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