rambo

[ZoneRead]

Rambo starting, in my opinion, can not be worse than last year. I think he will add speed and another element that will be a huge lift.

 

[Warpath]

Here's what I like to hear. Redskins Scott Campbell on Rambo:

“The first time I really, really was excited, man, when we met with him at the combine and we put him on the board and he started going through the defense. And he says: ‘You want me to tell you what the linebacker is doing here? The defensive end?’ He went through the whole thing, which a lot of the kids don’t do. He’s saying, ‘I could talk football with you guys all night long.’ He knew where the corners where supposed to be, what the linebackers were doing on that play. It was impressive. It was surprising, the depth of his knowledge of football, which shows he has a passion for it. He loves it.”

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[deanpet21]

So why wasn't he selected over Thomas? Is Thomas smarter? Is Thomas a better player? At the time they knew Thomas was a SS so why pass on the true FS prospect from an SEC school? Where did you get that quote warpath? Just curious.

Plus a 3rd string OLB and RB gets precedence over a possible starting FS. That is just crazy. What a huge gamble. I am so glad he was there. Did the off field problems really drop Rambo 3 rounds?

 

[Sharkinva]

Any one that says it wasnt a little bit of luck that Rambo fell to us is kidding themselves. Reed, Thomas and Jenkins were picked ahead of Rambo because they were the BPA on our draft board at the time and thus we took them instead of passing up on them. Now when it got to the 6th and Rambo was still there, it became a no brainer. But there was a bit of luck involved.

Bottom line is, he is here. He looks like he will be starting week one, and aint no reason for us to debate the whys and hows at this point. Just be glad that the football universe might actually be cutting the Skins some slack after ten years of Vinny as GM/Puppet.

 

[Warpath]

So why wasn't he selected over Thomas? Is Thomas smarter? Is Thomas a better player? At the time they knew Thomas was a SS so why pass on the true FS prospect from an SEC school? Where did you get that quote warpath? Just curious.

Plus a 3rd string OLB and RB gets precedence over a possible starting FS. That is just crazy. What a huge gamble. I am so glad he was there. Did the off field problems really drop Rambo 3 rounds?

Rambo was taken as late as he was due to off field concerns.

I got the quote from Rich Campbell, who interviewed Scott Campbell this morning.

It's not a huge gamble when you consider that the Redskins interviewed free agent veterans to fill the FS position prior to the draft in the event that they didn't land one with their plan to draft best players on their board rather than need.

Any team that goes into a draft, and goes strictly off need is foolish. And any team that doesn't explore all options is even more foolish. The Redskins had a lot of irons in the fire between veterans they were prepared to sign and a deep draft class at safety.

 

[deanpet21]

Then how do you explain the "Honey Badger" who was taken in the 3rd round? No one had more off field concerns than him. In my opinion Thomas and Rambo have more upside than any other FA safety out there. You make it sound like the Redskins should of passed on Safeties in this draft b/c they interviewed other veteran FA safeties.

Selecting 3rd stringers over possible starters in the draft just doesn't register with me. Everyone knew Rambo had the talent.

 

[Warpath]

People thought Honey Badger would have been a first round pick if not for his off the field issues. Not sure what your point is there. He fell almost as far. Rambo would have been a late 3rd round to mid 4th round pick.

Those players you keep calling 3rd stringers will contribute to the team this year and may be eventual starters. You don't go into any draft thinking you need an immediate starter unless you are picking high in the first round. Complaining about mid round picks, which a team can usually only count on for depth if they even make the team, is senseless.

 

[Warpath]

You make it sound like the Redskins should of passed on Safeties in this draft b/c they interviewed other veteran FA safeties.

No, that's not the way I make it sound at all. That's how you are interpreting what I said. Which is your fault, not mine.

I said they had contingency plans in place to handle the free safety position in free agency depending on whether taking a free safety in the draft was in line with taking best players on their board. They ended up taking one with Rambo late in the draft.

 

[skinsdad62]

some one , any one please tell me why does it matter that we got rambo in round 6 ? why does it matter if thomas got picked 1st ?

both rambo and thomas should be starting together perhaps by the end of 2014

dean your philosophy for the draft is simply wrong . you dont draft for NEED SOLEY . we did check on safeties in FA and if for some reason we didnt get safety help we would have gotten it there

we picked reed , thompson and jenkins as best player available picks and then we addressed need with rambo who was there

i dont see a problem . we got all the players we wanted

 

[deanpet21]

Rambo was projected a late 3rd to 4th round pick with the off-field issues. If Rambo was clean he is a 2nd rounder. You are actually going to tell me that the Skins are not lucky Rambo was there in the 6th?

 

[deanpet21]

I don't see a problem either skinsdad. But you have to admit when you are lucky.

 

[Sharkinva]

GUys... some times it is better to be lucky than good. We got lucky that 31 other teams passed on Morris last year.

Looks like lightning might strike a second time in the 6th round because 31 other teams passed on Rambo atleast 5 times.

Now real luck will be determined if a few of these ILBs and Minnifield actually work out. Cause that could set our defense up in good shape for quite some time.

 

[Warpath]

You also have to admit that the Redskins had other options lined up. Which is smart. If you cover all your bases and draft best player available, you're often rewarded with Rambo type picks. The teams the consistently win, do the same damn thing.

You want to make it out as if their only option was to draft a free safety. Which wasn't the case.

 

[skinsdad62]

I don't see a problem either skinsdad. But you have to admit when you are lucky.

the skins made their luck . they did the scouting , they researched the competition and took an educated guess as to when to pick a player

was there a % of good fortune ? sure but lets not overstate it . we found morris , looks like robinson will be a hit and now rambo all in round 6

 

[Warpath]

Rambo was projected a late 3rd to 4th round pick with the off-field issues. If Rambo was clean he is a 2nd rounder. You are actually going to tell me that the Skins are not lucky Rambo was there in the 6th?

That's your opinion. I never saw Rambo projected in the 2nd round. And even guys who were projected in the 2nd by some, like Thomas... fell.

Why? Because this was an extremely deep safety class and the free agent market was also saturated with defensive backs.

I thought before the draft that a lot of safety prospects would fall a bit because of that. Add to it a player that had off field issues, and they fall a bit further.

Redskins took advantage of a deep safety class coming away with two guys who were projected earlier than what they went, for the reasons I stated.

 

[Warpath]

Overall, this is a boom or bust draft. It could end up being the best overall draft the Redskins have had a quite a while. Because they took BPA, and they took high risk high reward players. Players who if they pan out to their peak, could be the backbone of this team for a while. They picked guys who:

1- Would have been taken much higher if it weren't for injury (Thompson, Jenkins)
2- Players who dropped due to a saturated market and deep draft class (Rambo, Thomas)
3- Players that flashed great ability but who were inconsistent (Amerson, Reed)

 

[deanpet21]

Rambo was never projected 2nd round b/c of his off field issues. I said if Rambo was clean. Yes this was one of the deepest safety classes in draft history. So how can you say you would be content if we didn't get one starter out of this class. We have no competition at FS on our current roster. The #1 goal in my opinion was to get a starting FS and safety depth from this draft class. We did it. The Rambo pick makes this draft class b/c we found out that Thomas is a SS.

 

[Warpath]

I need to keep a clicker so I can track how many times you're going to make me say the same things.

The draft wasn't the only option to fill the FS need.
The draft wasn't the only option to fill the FS need.
The draft wasn't the only option to fill the FS need.
The draft wasn't the only option to fill the FS need.
The draft wasn't the only option to fill the FS need.

They had met with a few free agent veteran safeties to fill the need if they didn't get one in the draft.

Again.

They had met with a few free agent veteran safeties to fill the need if they didn't get one in the draft.

 

[Warpath]

And anyone who watched Thomas play, knew he was more ideal as a SS before we ever drafted him. He played in the box the majority of the time in college.

That also filled a big need because Meriweather is coming off major knee surgery. And Thomas can play both positions.

 

[Sharkinva]

And anyone who watched Thomas play, knew he was more ideal as a SS before we ever drafted him. He played in the box the majority of the time in college.

That also filled a big need because Meriweather is coming off major knee surgery. And Thomas can play both positions.

Where a guy played in College does not always mean he is locked into that spot in the NFL though. How many corners have we seen converted to safety. Centers and Tackles moved to guard.

I think the coaches thought they could convert Thomas to a FS. Going in the report was that Thomas and Rambo would be competing to start at FS. Apparently Rambo won the job so far. And in our system, you almost have to play both in either case.

Glad we got them both. We had zero depth at the safety position last year.