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Polumbus - The Gem of the Ocean

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I figured I would stop there. Honestly at this point even just in a handful of snaps I don't see how Kubiak could even think about going back to Schofield. Schofield is supposed to be the better run blocker of the two but I would say Polumbus did a great job in both pass and run blocking. I don't think Polumbus is going to be some All-Pro RT for us by any means. What we might see though is going from worst player at the RT position to an average player at the RT position by having him there. I was very impressed especially as the game went on with his pass blocking. He seemed to get more comfortable and aggressive in really going and meeting the pass rusher instead of letting them pick up some speed and then make a move.

Now I know Kubiak has the fatal flaw at times of being too loyal to a player. I really hope this is not one of those situations because Polumbus to me is beyond the clear choice and should have been at the position a month ago.
 

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Alright so I decided to go back and see just how he did and if this could be the big fix in the playoffs that makes all the difference (remember how the Ravens changed up their OL right before the playoffs in 2012 and how well that paid off?)

This post might get long but I figured go play by play with him in.

1st play--Peyton had just come in the game and we are down 13-7 in the 3rd. We run an outside zone play with Hillman. Polumbus does a terrible job getting off the line but ends up making a key block to spring Hillman for an extra few yards.

2nd play--He has the responsibility of blocking the LE and does really well on a 2nd and 4 run play where we pick up the 1st down.

3rd play--First time pass blocking. Engram tries to do his inside move that worked so well on Schofield. Plumbus does a good enough job to hold him off. He didn't have the best of position on him but he didn't give him the easy path to Peyton either.

4th play--Another pass play. The Broncos actually give him help with a RB on the outside. Polumbus looked like he knew he had help to the outside and made sure Engram couldn't beat him to the inside. Engram had to try and swing out wide and the RB was waiting. Without help though Manning takes a huge hit on this one.

5th play--He has backside cut block responsibility and does really well slowing down the DL springing Hillman for a huge run.

6th play--He really isn't asked to do much but try and go head up with the back side DT. The play goes the opposite direction of him on the should have been touchdown by Anderson.

For the obvious goal line running plays they did put Schofield back in then on the touchdown run.

2nd Drive

1st play--We run a zone stretch play to the left with Polumbus having responsibility of getting to the 2nd level and cutting off the linebacker. He does enough to slow the guy down and Hillman goes for a nice run

2nd play--This was an inside zone to the left. Polumbus has back side responsibility and again does just enough to open up the cut back lane that Anderson hits and goes for a 1st down.

3rd play--Maybe my favorite so far. Pass play that was the deep come back by DT. Polumbus was 1-on-1 with the LE and did a very good job of moving his feet and keeping his body square to the LE. My only problem with him on this play is he kept sliding backwards instead of fully engaging. Got closer to Manning than I liked but still showed much better body control than Schofield has in a long time.

4th play--Another pass play but this time he is helping to the inside on a double team and he helped form a nice wall. Manning just made a bad pass unfortunately but this one was blocked really well.

5th play--Inside Zone run to the left again. He starts out with a double team and then peeled off to the 2nd level. Very nice blocking on this play by Polumbus.

6th play--We are trying to run a screen pass to the right. Polumbus is supposed to be one of the lead blockers. The problem is the DE jumps up right in his face reading the play the whole way and knocks the ball down. I think Polumbus could have done just a bit more to either sell it or at least engage the DE long enough so that he couldn't get his hands up.

3rd drive

1st play--This was another deep come back route but this time to Sanders. Polumbus has Daniels to his right to stay in and help block. Essentially he just helps out a bit to slow a couple of guys down. The team did a very good job blocking on this one but Polumbus really didn't do much to help.

2nd play--Another pass to Sanders. Polumbus is 1-on-1 with Engram I believe. He does a decent job at first but Engram ends up throwing Polumbus to the side and almost gets to Manning. Again looks like Polumbus is playing too much with backpedaling giving up any kind of leverage. I would rather see him get a better anchor position and really try to get that first good punch to throw the rusher off a bit.

3rd play--This was a power blocking play actually that was run right behind Polumbus and he did awesome! He opened a huge hole for Hillman that went for big yards.

4th play--It was like he read my comment on the 2nd play because this time he attacked Engram on a pass play and Engram didn't hardly even move from where his stance was. Probably Polumbus' best block by far!

5th play--run play again behind Polumbus. Not his best work as he got pushed back a bit making Anderson have to dance just a bit only picking up a few yards.


6th play--Well this was his worst block. This was the 3rd and 2 down in Charger territory. He was supposed to get to the 2nd level and take on one of the linebackers but seemed to not know his assignment and just stayed at the LOS. The guy he was supposed to block then had a free lane to Anderson in the backfield.

4th drive

1st play--Man this play had such potential. Polumbus himself on this play action pass did a good job helping out to hold up the right side. Unfortunately Paradis missed his block and Peyton didn't have time to hit a wide open Sanders for a touchdown deep.

2nd play--I'm starting to really like this guy honestly at this point. This was a run play that only went for a couple of yards but Polumbus started out with a combo block that he helped drive 2 yards straight backwards and then peeled off to pick up one of the linebackers driving them 10 yards out of the play.

3rd play--Again looks like he maybe had the coaches talk to him or something because instead of going backwards at the snap on the pass play he goes right after Engram and has him contained. Peyton actually had I would say 6 seconds to throw on this play but just couldn't find anybody open.

5th drive

Only play--Run to the right side with Polumbus having 1-on-1 responsibility to kick the DE out. He does it perfectly and Hillman has a huge hole to run through for the easy touchdown. Amazing blocking all around from the right side of the line. If you watch on this play Polumbus also doesn't quit. Heck Hillman his 15 yards down the line of scrimmage and he is still blocking Engram.

Wow! That's some serious play by play analysis. Great job, CD! Not sure that I could ever find the time to pull that off like you (probably not as well thought out, either) i can't imagine the Broncos not keeping Polumbus in the line up.
 

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Wow! That's some serious play by play analysis. Great job, CD! Not sure that I could ever find the time to pull that off like you (probably not as well thought out, either) i can't imagine the Broncos not keeping Polumbus in the line up.

Well I am having one of my I can't sleep weeks so I need something to pass the time. Probably plenty of other things I could do that are more productive but I did want to see if he really did make a difference. Like I said I was actually blown away with the difference he made. Again he is not going to be this ridiculous talent that never gives up pressure. HE will lose some battles but I don't think it will be like Schofield who just about every time you turn around his guy has him beat.
 

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Also it actually only took about 20 minutes to do all that. I have NFL Game Pass where you can do the condensed versions of games where they last like 30 minutes. So just had to find the spot where they finally put in Polumbus and go play by play. Like I said it didn't take as long as you might think.
 

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Also it actually only took about 20 minutes to do all that. I have NFL Game Pass where you can do the condensed versions of games where they last like 30 minutes. So just had to find the spot where they finally put in Polumbus and go play by play. Like I said it didn't take as long as you might think.

Well, it's nice to have our own SportsHoopla Broncos analyst on staff!
 

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Alright so I decided to go back and see just how he did and if this could be the big fix in the playoffs that makes all the difference (remember how the Ravens changed up their OL right before the playoffs in 2012 and how well that paid off?)

This post might get long but I figured go play by play with him in.

1st play--Peyton had just come in the game and we are down 13-7 in the 3rd. We run an outside zone play with Hillman. Polumbus does a terrible job getting off the line but ends up making a key block to spring Hillman for an extra few yards.

2nd play--He has the responsibility of blocking the LE and does really well on a 2nd and 4 run play where we pick up the 1st down.

3rd play--First time pass blocking. Engram tries to do his inside move that worked so well on Schofield. Plumbus does a good enough job to hold him off. He didn't have the best of position on him but he didn't give him the easy path to Peyton either.

4th play--Another pass play. The Broncos actually give him help with a RB on the outside. Polumbus looked like he knew he had help to the outside and made sure Engram couldn't beat him to the inside. Engram had to try and swing out wide and the RB was waiting. Without help though Manning takes a huge hit on this one.

5th play--He has backside cut block responsibility and does really well slowing down the DL springing Hillman for a huge run.

6th play--He really isn't asked to do much but try and go head up with the back side DT. The play goes the opposite direction of him on the should have been touchdown by Anderson.

For the obvious goal line running plays they did put Schofield back in then on the touchdown run.

2nd Drive

1st play--We run a zone stretch play to the left with Polumbus having responsibility of getting to the 2nd level and cutting off the linebacker. He does enough to slow the guy down and Hillman goes for a nice run

2nd play--This was an inside zone to the left. Polumbus has back side responsibility and again does just enough to open up the cut back lane that Anderson hits and goes for a 1st down.

3rd play--Maybe my favorite so far. Pass play that was the deep come back by DT. Polumbus was 1-on-1 with the LE and did a very good job of moving his feet and keeping his body square to the LE. My only problem with him on this play is he kept sliding backwards instead of fully engaging. Got closer to Manning than I liked but still showed much better body control than Schofield has in a long time.

4th play--Another pass play but this time he is helping to the inside on a double team and he helped form a nice wall. Manning just made a bad pass unfortunately but this one was blocked really well.

5th play--Inside Zone run to the left again. He starts out with a double team and then peeled off to the 2nd level. Very nice blocking on this play by Polumbus.

6th play--We are trying to run a screen pass to the right. Polumbus is supposed to be one of the lead blockers. The problem is the DE jumps up right in his face reading the play the whole way and knocks the ball down. I think Polumbus could have done just a bit more to either sell it or at least engage the DE long enough so that he couldn't get his hands up.

3rd drive

1st play--This was another deep come back route but this time to Sanders. Polumbus has Daniels to his right to stay in and help block. Essentially he just helps out a bit to slow a couple of guys down. The team did a very good job blocking on this one but Polumbus really didn't do much to help.

2nd play--Another pass to Sanders. Polumbus is 1-on-1 with Engram I believe. He does a decent job at first but Engram ends up throwing Polumbus to the side and almost gets to Manning. Again looks like Polumbus is playing too much with backpedaling giving up any kind of leverage. I would rather see him get a better anchor position and really try to get that first good punch to throw the rusher off a bit.

3rd play--This was a power blocking play actually that was run right behind Polumbus and he did awesome! He opened a huge hole for Hillman that went for big yards.

4th play--It was like he read my comment on the 2nd play because this time he attacked Engram on a pass play and Engram didn't hardly even move from where his stance was. Probably Polumbus' best block by far!

5th play--run play again behind Polumbus. Not his best work as he got pushed back a bit making Anderson have to dance just a bit only picking up a few yards.


6th play--Well this was his worst block. This was the 3rd and 2 down in Charger territory. He was supposed to get to the 2nd level and take on one of the linebackers but seemed to not know his assignment and just stayed at the LOS. The guy he was supposed to block then had a free lane to Anderson in the backfield.

4th drive

1st play--Man this play had such potential. Polumbus himself on this play action pass did a good job helping out to hold up the right side. Unfortunately Paradis missed his block and Peyton didn't have time to hit a wide open Sanders for a touchdown deep.

2nd play--I'm starting to really like this guy honestly at this point. This was a run play that only went for a couple of yards but Polumbus started out with a combo block that he helped drive 2 yards straight backwards and then peeled off to pick up one of the linebackers driving them 10 yards out of the play.

3rd play--Again looks like he maybe had the coaches talk to him or something because instead of going backwards at the snap on the pass play he goes right after Engram and has him contained. Peyton actually had I would say 6 seconds to throw on this play but just couldn't find anybody open.

5th drive

Only play--Run to the right side with Polumbus having 1-on-1 responsibility to kick the DE out. He does it perfectly and Hillman has a huge hole to run through for the easy touchdown. Amazing blocking all around from the right side of the line. If you watch on this play Polumbus also doesn't quit. Heck Hillman his 15 yards down the line of scrimmage and he is still blocking Engram.

Thank You very much cd !!! I thought some of those huge runs went though his hole ..great to hear ..

IMO as #76 goes so goes our chances at a SB
 

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I'm not trying to be mean here and I don't pay as close attention to the OL as I do other positions but it's hard not to when the OL sucks, but I honestly haven't seen an OL plays as poor as Schofield has. I thought he came in and did ok at first, but has gotten worse each game since... I actually feel bad for him.
 

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[QUOTECD,cdumler7, post: 7808530, member: 5773"]Alright so I decided to go back and see just how he did and if this could be the big fix in the playoffs that makes all the difference (remember how the Ravens changed up their OL right before the playoffs in 2012 and how well that paid off?)

This post might get long but I figured go play by play with him in.

1st play--Peyton had just come in the game and we are down 13-7 in the 3rd. We run an outside zone play with Hillman. Polumbus does a terrible job getting off the line but ends up making a key block to spring Hillman for an extra few yards.

2nd play--He has the responsibility of blocking the LE and does really well on a 2nd and 4 run play where we pick up the 1st down.

3rd play--First time pass blocking. Engram tries to do his inside move that worked so well on Schofield. Plumbus does a good enough job to hold him off. He didn't have the best of position on him but he didn't give him the easy path to Peyton either.

4th play--Another pass play. The Broncos actually give him help with a RB on the outside. Polumbus looked like he knew he had help to the outside and made sure Engram couldn't beat him to the inside. Engram had to try and swing out wide and the RB was waiting. Without help though Manning takes a huge hit on this one.

5th play--He has backside cut block responsibility and does really well slowing down the DL springing Hillman for a huge run.

6th play--He really isn't asked to do much but try and go head up with the back side DT. The play goes the opposite direction of him on the should have been touchdown by Anderson.

For the obvious goal line running plays they did put Schofield back in then on the touchdown run.

2nd Drive

1st play--We run a zone stretch play to the left with Polumbus having responsibility of getting to the 2nd level and cutting off the linebacker. He does enough to slow the guy down and Hillman goes for a nice run

2nd play--This was an inside zone to the left. Polumbus has back side responsibility and again does just enough to open up the cut back lane that Anderson hits and goes for a 1st down.

3rd play--Maybe my favorite so far. Pass play that was the deep come back by DT. Polumbus was 1-on-1 with the LE and did a very good job of moving his feet and keeping his body square to the LE. My only problem with him on this play is he kept sliding backwards instead of fully engaging. Got closer to Manning than I liked but still showed much better body control than Schofield has in a long time.

4th play--Another pass play but this time he is helping to the inside on a double team and he helped form a nice wall. Manning just made a bad pass unfortunately but this one was blocked really well.

5th play--Inside Zone run to the left again. He starts out with a double team and then peeled off to the 2nd level. Very nice blocking on this play by Polumbus.

6th play--We are trying to run a screen pass to the right. Polumbus is supposed to be one of the lead blockers. The problem is the DE jumps up right in his face reading the play the whole way and knocks the ball down. I think Polumbus could have done just a bit more to either sell it or at least engage the DE long enough so that he couldn't get his hands up.

3rd drive

1st play--This was another deep come back route but this time to Sanders. Polumbus has Daniels to his right to stay in and help block. Essentially he just helps out a bit to slow a couple of guys down. The team did a very good job blocking on this one but Polumbus really didn't do much to help.

2nd play--Another pass to Sanders. Polumbus is 1-on-1 with Engram I believe. He does a decent job at first but Engram ends up throwing Polumbus to the side and almost gets to Manning. Again looks like Polumbus is playing too much with backpedaling giving up any kind of leverage. I would rather see him get a better anchor position and really try to get that first good punch to throw the rusher off a bit.

3rd play--This was a power blocking play actually that was run right behind Polumbus and he did awesome! He opened a huge hole for Hillman that went for big yards.

4th play--It was like he read my comment on the 2nd play because this time he attacked Engram on a pass play and Engram didn't hardly even move from where his stance was. Probably Polumbus' best block by far!

5th play--run play again behind Polumbus. Not his best work as he got pushed back a bit making Anderson have to dance just a bit only picking up a few yards.


6th play--Well this was his worst block. This was the 3rd and 2 down in Charger territory. He was supposed to get to the 2nd level and take on one of the linebackers but seemed to not know his assignment and just stayed at the LOS. The guy he was supposed to block then had a free lane to Anderson in the backfield.

4th drive

1st play--Man this play had such potential. Polumbus himself on this play action pass did a good job helping out to hold up the right side. Unfortunately Paradis missed his block and Peyton didn't have time to hit a wide open Sanders for a touchdown deep.

2nd play--I'm starting to really like this guy honestly at this point. This was a run play that only went for a couple of yards but Polumbus started out with a combo block that he helped drive 2 yards straight backwards and then peeled off to pick up one of the linebackers driving them 10 yards out of the play.

3rd play--Again looks like he maybe had the coaches talk to him or something because instead of going backwards at the snap on the pass play he goes right after Engram and has him contained. Peyton actually had I would say 6 seconds to throw on this play but just couldn't find anybody open.

5th drive

Only play--Run to the right side with Polumbus having 1-on-1 responsibility to kick the DE out. He does it perfectly and Hillman has a huge hole to run through for the easy touchdown. Amazing blocking all around from the right side of the line. If you watch on this play Polumbus also doesn't quit. Heck Hillman his 15 yards down the line of scrimmage and he is still blocking Engram.[/QUOTE]


Wow cd, is that the best you can do? You stop after the 5th series? That's pretty lazy if you ask me. Seriously man, you need to step your game up.











Haha, j/k.
That was awesome!

:clap:
 

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I'm not trying to be mean here and I don't pay as close attention to the OL as I do other positions but it's hard not to when the OL sucks, but I honestly haven't seen an OL plays as poor as Schofield has. I thought he came in and did ok at first, but has gotten worse each game since... I actually feel bad for him.

To me I don't think that it is so much that he doesn't have the talent to succeed. I think his problem is technique and that he really does have 0 confidence in himself anymore. I'm guessing he has listened to all the analyst talk about how he has been just down right terrible. I see him not so much losing because he is getting overpowered but it is because he is overpanicking. He is thinking way too much. These defenders know they are in his head and just use and abuse him.

This is why the switch to Polumbus makes so much sense. Again from what I watched it wasn't like Polumbus was perfect by any means. He had at least a handful of plays that I noticed he really screwed up. The nice thing with Polumbus though was he didn't let one bad play turn into 5 straight bad plays. I remember the first time we played the Chargers and Engram blew right by Schofield and ended up getting the roughing the passer penalty. Very next play Engram does the exact same thing he did the play before and gets the sack. To me if Polumbus allowed the first play to happen the 2nd one doesn't.
 

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There is no way in Hell that Polumbus could possibly do any worse or I`ll quit drinking.......as much...and only on days that end in Y......Ok, I`ll seriously think about stopping/ slowing down/pacing myself/....
 

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Polumbus just needs to be "Not Terrible" to be an upgrade.
 
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