Poll on Pitching:

[CowboyB]

Would you consider a pitcher giving up 4 earned runs in 6 innings a "pummeling?"

Vote and discuss.

 

[CowboyB]

I say that is a good offensive showing.

But a pummeling needs to yield at least double digit runs.

 

[redseat]

No considering 3 earned in 6 ip is considered a "quality start"

 

[fordman84]

Personally, I consider giving up more than 1 run per inning pitched is a pummeling. So 6+ in 6 innings.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

depends... hows the WHIP?? some times a pitcher allows 4 runs and it seemed like he was dominant all game but just made a few mistakes... sometimes he allows 4 runs but you were lucky it wasnt more...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

No considering 3 earned in 6 ip is considered a "quality start"

QS is one of my favorite pitching stats... it may be the only one that really measures consistancy...

 

[BigDDude]

Would you consider a pitcher giving up 4 earned runs in 6 innings a "pummeling?"

Vote and discuss.

Smells like a daily thread issue to me.

But no. 4 Runs in 6 i.p is not a pummeling, but just a poor outing. Unless, I guess, the 4 runs were to the last 4 hitters the guy faced, and all 4 homered.

 

[CowboyB]

Smells like a daily thread issue to me.

But no. 4 Runs in 6 i.p is not a pummeling, but just a poor outing. Unless, I guess, the 4 runs were to the last 4 hitters the guy faced, and all 4 homered.

Haha

I was taking it throwback to the old days where we would have a spinoff poll.

 

[BigDDude]

Haha

I was taking it throwback to the old days where we would have a spinoff poll.

I thought I was on the right track......

I would say that I would hope my info would be helpful to you. I know that is not the case, as I know where this argument is taking place, and that nobody really wins any argument there, though most there will think they have won.

 

[redseat]

QS is one of my favorite pitching stats... it may be the only one that really measures consistancy...

Yes it is a good stat. Just saying that how is one more run considered "bad" when it is considered good if you only gave up one less

 

[BigDDude]

Yes it is a good stat. Just saying that how is one more run considered "bad" when it is considered good if you only gave up one less

The minimum quality start leaves you with a 4.50 e.r.a, whereas the example start leaves you with a 6.00 e.r.a.


In interest of more full disclosure, I think the league average e.r.a is right around 4, so a quality start is also a "lesser than" start as far as only e.r.a is considered.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

The minimum quality start leaves you with a 4.50 e.r.a, whereas the example start leaves you with a 6.00 e.r.a.


In interest of more full disclosure, I think the league average e.r.a is right around 4, so a quality start is also a "lesser than" start as far as only e.r.a is considered.

BigD, yes 6 innings and 3 runs is a quality start and yes it is a 4.5 ERA, but that is not what the stat is intended for... It shows consistancy.... even the worst offensive team averages just over 4 runs a game. so anytime you let up less than 4 runs you have kept your team in the game... Baseball is about wins, not how you win, and having a quality start your team is more likely to win than lose...

 

[HammerDown]

4 ER in 6 IP is most certainly not a pummeling in my opinion. A pummeling would be 4 ER in the 1st and being lifted.

 

[BigDDude]

and having a quality start your team is more likely to win than lose

To me, this is all this shows. That said, I do also agree on the consistancy angle. However, to me, to accumulate a bunch of just and only quality starts is to show a league average pitcher.

 

[redseat]

and having a quality start your team is more likely to win than lose...

Ask King Felix how he feels about this, lol

 

[steveringo]

Would you consider a pitcher giving up 4 earned runs in 6 innings a "pummeling?"

Vote and discuss.

If your team scores five runs, I'd call it a great game.