PFT: Teams Still Use That Old Jimmy Johnson Draft Value Chart

[redskinsfan]

Draft trades still follow the chart | ProFootballTalk

It might be an oldie, but it apparently is still a goodie. Jimmy Johnson's draft value chart is still used by teams to gauge trades of draft picks. This chart, of course, is only good for current year picks. If you're throwing in future year picks and/or players, you've got to start off with the draft selections for that particular year and then decide what you believe to be fair.

For instance, if Chippy wanted to trade from #20 (850) up to #2 (2600), he'd have to make up 1750 points. That point total falls between the fourth and fifth overall pick. In order to pull this off, he'd have to trade future first rounders, players, relatives and donate some bodily organs. Or, he could, if he can get them, package Cleveland's two first rounders (#12 (1200), #19 (875)) and throw in the Eagles current second and third rounders this year (#52 (380), #84 (170)). That comes out to 2625 points, which is almost an equal draft point value exchange.

While this seems pretty numerically simplistic, the issue becomes how Chippy will get those two Cleveland picks in the first place. They total 2075 points and the Eagles first rounder (#20) is only 850. The point difference there falls between the 11th and 12th overall pick. He could send players to complete the deal and/or he could give future picks. This could involve Mychal Kendricks, Fletcher Cox (though he just got optioned) and/or the Eagles first and second round picks next year.

Whatever the case may be, Chippy will have to 'mortgage the farm' to get the second pick. The draft point value chart plots a map on how he can get there. And how funny would it be if he did what it took to land Tennessee's second overall pick only to learn that Tampa would be taking Mariota first overall. I doubt Chippy is that stupid, but it's funny to ponder nonetheless.

 

[skinsdad62]

that explains Rg3 trade

 

[redskinsfan]

The RG3 trade didn't involve the draft chart as it involved two future first rounders and the fact there was another team (Browns) competing with us.

 

[Sharkinva]

Actually the RG3 trade did take the chart into account.

A future pick is commonly considered to be of like value to the same pick one round later.

So if you are trading the #5 over all pick in 2015, plus next years first.. in effect you are trading

#5 this year 1700 and the #37 530 for a total value of 2230

in our case we gave up the #6 1600 #38 520 (2nd #38 1st in 2013) 520 and #70 (2014 1st round) 240

2880 total value and we got #2 which was 2600 in value. So we gave up a little too much. we should not have had to give up the extra 1st rounder to get the deal done and make it fair.

 

[redskinsfan]

Actually the RG3 trade did take the chart into account.

A future pick is commonly considered to be of like value to the same pick one round later.

So if you are trading the #5 over all pick in 2015, plus next years first.. in effect you are trading

#5 this year 1700 and the #37 530 for a total value of 2230

in our case we gave up the #6 1600 #38 520 (2nd #38 1st in 2013) 520 and #70 (2014 1st round) 240

2880 total value and we got #2 which was 2600 in value. So we gave up a little too much. we should not have had to give up the extra 1st rounder to get the deal done and make it fair.

The issue of how you value later year picks has been debated, but what you just laid out is one of the more reasonable ones. The real unknown frontier involves picks and players. And that's what Chippy may have to do if he wants Mariota.