Penguins Trade James Neal To Predators

[thedddd]

To be honest at first I hated the deal since no picks were involved and the timing.
But after looking at it more and more it truly isn't a bad deal for either side.

Neal gives the Preds what they need a PURE goal scorer. Now the question will be can he do that without Malkin? Before Malkin he was a goal producer all the same as Hornqvist.

Then Hornqvist gives the Penguins a more diciplined player that is better two-way vs what Neal was. I HIGHLY doubt he will go above 30 goals in a season for the Penguins but he gives their top 6 something that was missing. Real grit and not what Neal did which was dirty at times.

Spaling is a 3rd/4th liner that is a RFA just hope he doesn't cost too much and probably means Vitale is gone. I hope they can resign Goc though.

That is the huge glaring issue with this trade, NO CAP relief for the Penguins. Basically enough to cover Craig Adams +35 contract .

 

[Darkstone42]

To be honest at first I hated the deal since no picks were involved and the timing.
But after looking at it more and more it truly isn't a bad deal for either side.

Neal gives the Preds what they need a PURE goal scorer. Now the question will be can he do that without Malkin? Before Malkin he was a goal producer all the same as Hornqvist.

Then Hornqvist gives the Penguins a more diciplined player that is better two-way vs what Neal was. I HIGHLY doubt he will go above 30 goals in a season for the Penguins but he gives their top 6 something that was missing. Real grit and not what Neal did which was dirty at times.

Spaling is a 3rd/4th liner that is a RFA just hope he doesn't cost too much and probably means Vitale is gone. I hope they can resign Goc though.

That is the huge glaring issue with this trade, NO CAP relief for the Penguins. Basically enough to cover Craig Adams +35 contract .

I wouldn't call it no cap relief, since we have two players for effectively the price we spent on one, depending on the value of Spaling's contract.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I wouldn't call it no cap relief, since we have two players for effectively the price we spent on one, depending on the value of Spaling's contract.

It isn't cap relief as far as gaining cap space but it does give them an extra player and they do need depth - maybe it makes it a little easier for them to make another deal

 

[thedddd]

I wouldn't call it no cap relief, since we have two players for effectively the price we spent on one, depending on the value of Spaling's contract.

Oh yeah literally it is some but not enough to help out except afford Another Craig Adams level contract. I guess the positive it will free up a two-way contract for the roster.

No matter what it is a pretty reasonable deal for both sides.

 

[BM.]

I'm fine with it. Neal was a perennial underachiever who could only score on the power play, took dumb penalties/suspensions, and disappeared in the playoffs.

 

[pixburgher66]

I'm fine with it. Neal was a perennial underachiever who could only score on the power play, took dumb penalties/suspensions, and disappeared in the playoffs.

I don't want to undersell the guy by agreeing with ALL of that, because he was an asset to the team, but I think what sealed his fate was when he got booted off the top PP unit.

 

[Darkstone42]

Isn't Adams only signed for $700K? I don't think the Adams contract is going to break the bank.

Scuderi's still where we can get the cap relief, I think, so long as we find a taker. Trading Neal could have provided relief, but only at the necessary expense of a lot of production. Scuderi has no such cost associated with him.

 

[pixburgher66]

Isn't Adams only signed for $700K? I don't think the Adams contract is going to break the bank.

Scuderi's still where we can get the cap relief, I think, so long as we find a taker. Trading Neal could have provided relief, but only at the necessary expense of a lot of production. Scuderi has no such cost associated with him.

If they can find a taker for Scuderi, I'll throw a small party.

 

[BM.]

If they can find a taker for Scuderi, I'll throw a small party.

He's not the Scuderi we all knew and loved anymore....

 

[Darkstone42]

He's not the Scuderi we need, but he's the Scuderi we deserve right now.

 

[pixburgher66]

He's not the Scuderi we all knew and loved anymore....

Unfortunately, he's not the type of player that ages gracefully...

 

[thedddd]

Isn't Adams only signed for $700K? I don't think the Adams contract is going to break the bank.

Scuderi's still where we can get the cap relief, I think, so long as we find a taker. Trading Neal could have provided relief, but only at the necessary expense of a lot of production. Scuderi has no such cost associated with him.

Yeah I was only using that as a reference as the amount of the Cap relief they got from the Neal trade, nothing more. Also his deal is a +35 deal so it can't come off the books.

And yeah I get the fact that there is a cost with the production but with their cap situation the cuts will have to be at a cost.
Scuderi on the other hand if you can deal him good luck, due to the size of the contract he has no value.

 

[Dacks]

I like getting Hornqvist, I just don't see the point of the timing if no draft picks were involved. Think they could have gotten more for Neal if they'd waited.

I don't think we ca get rid of Scuderi without retaining cap hit, unfortunately.