Paul Goldschmidt

[Arizona_Sting]

Best player in baseball. FACT. He's a machine in every aspect of the game… hitting, stealing, defense, etc.

If only our pitching staff had an ace

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

Still very early in the season.. Hell Dee Gordon looks like an MVP candidate as well..

 

[The Derski]

perennial MVP candidate. Dbacks can hit. We need pitching bad. And people also need to stop hitting liners to our pitchers face.

Good thing we traded Scherzer! Kevin Towers was an awesome GM!

 

[The Derski]

Still very early in the season.. Hell Dee Gordon looks like an MVP candidate as well..

I think Goldschmidt has proved himself. He's one of the 5 best players in baseball when healthy.Comparing him to Dee Gordon is unfair and innacurate. Although Dee is tearing it up.

Is Dee his full name?














I'm drunk

 

[Arizona_Sting]

Still very early in the season.. Hell Dee Gordon looks like an MVP candidate as well..

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[scoutyjones2]

It's early...Matt Carpenter looks like an MVP too

 

[Arizona_Sting]

Dee Gordon, Matt Carpenter and Paul Goldschmidt.

One of the three does not belong.

Have you guys not followed baseball the last 3 years? Goldy has been a machine for a while now, it's not just some hot start.

 

[Davis_Mike]

Goldy & Gonzo are both tearing it up right now.

Funny info I just stumbled upon, Ahmed is #7 in MLB in DWAR. Imagine if he was hitting & could play more often, he would likely be atop the leader board.

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

I think Goldschmidt has proved himself. He's one of the 5 best players in baseball when healthy.Comparing him to Dee Gordon is unfair and innacurate. Although Dee is tearing it up.

He's definitely an elite player but one of the 5 best is a huge stretch IMO..

 

[Arizona_Sting]

He's definitely an elite player but one of the 5 best is a huge stretch IMO..

Easily one of the best 5. Most could argue top 3. Name players that are clearly better than him outside of Trout.

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

Easily one of the best 5. Most could argue top 3. Name players that are clearly better than him outside of Trout.

Josh Donaldson, Joey Votto, Tulo(When Healthy), McCutchen, Brantley, Miggy, Yadier Molina, Stanton for sure off the top of my head. This accounting for defense as well of course..

Then you have guys like Beltre, Heyward, Cain, Gordon who are on par if not arguably better..

This is just without deep research either..

He is certainly top 20 or 15.. But sure as hell not top 5.. Maybe if he continues his base stealing this season with his hitting you could make that argument.. But you also have to account for other up and comers like Harper, Rizzo (Very good 1st base defense), Freeman, Simmons, Marte, Pederson etc..

 

[Arizona_Sting]

Josh Donaldson, Joey Votto, Tulo(When Healthy), McCutchen, Brantley, Miggy, Yadier Molina, Stanton for sure off the top of my head. This accounting for defense as well of course..

Then you have guys like Beltre, Heyward, Cain, Gordon who are on par if not arguably better..

This is just without deep research either..

He is certainly top 20 or 15.. But sure as hell not top 5.. Maybe if he continues his base stealing this season with his hitting you could make that argument.. But you also have to account for other up and comers like Harper, Rizzo (Very good 1st base defense), Freeman, Simmons, Marte, Pederson etc..

Okay I simply cannot have a discussion with you anymore. I'm not sure if you're trolling or not but if not MY LORD you do not know your baseball very well.

 

[navamind]

Best player in baseball. FACT. He's a machine in every aspect of the game… hitting, stealing, defense, etc.

If only our pitching staff had an ace

No. But he might be the best in the NL.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

No. But he is awesome.

Best 1B in the game right now. He does more than Miggy right now, imo. Top 5 player gets a little tricky though when defense and positional adjustments get involved. He's definitely top 5 if he puts up anything remotely close to what he is putting up right now.

 

[navamind]

Lol

1. McCutchen's been on par with Goldschmidt offensively, and that's before you factor in position. Not to mention McCutchen has more of a track record than Goldschmidt. Goldy was fantastic last year, but he only played 109 games. He's had one full season where he's played at an MVP-caliber level. 2012 was good, but not great.
2. a lot of people forget how good Joey Votto is. And the power looks like it's finally back.
3. Josh Donaldson's one of the best defensive players in the league at a more demanding position, and he's a damn good hitter to boot. Same goes for Alex Gordon (granted offense is a bit higher at LF than 3B).
4. Adrian Beltre has been among the best 3B in the league over the last 5 seasons, batting .316/.364/.535 (140 OPS+) while playing above average/elite defense (his defense isn't quite godly anymore though).
5. Tulowitzki... ehh. He's played 291 games from 2012-15. His talent's obvious, but durability is a skill, and he simply lacks it. It's hard to call a guy that can't stay healthy one of the best.


I can agree with Goldschmidt being top 5.

 

[FantasyBelowZero]

Watch, just like any other good player we had, we'll trade him or lose him (Scherzer, Upton, Young, Parra, Reynolds, Drew, Miley).

 

[BrockForBroglio]

Kolton Wong s making a name for himself, if Matheny would just move him to lead-off, then he would be able to showcase his stolen base talent with Carpenter batting #2. There's a lot of good young talent in the NL.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Lol

1. McCutchen's been on par with Goldschmidt offensively, and that's before you factor in position. Not to mention McCutchen has more of a track record than Goldschmidt. Goldy was fantastic last year, but he only played 109 games.
2. a lot of people forget how good Joey Votto is. And the power looks like it's finally back.
3. Josh Donaldson's one of the best defensive players in the league at a more demanding position, and he's a damn good hitter to boot.
4. Adrian Beltre has been among the best 3B in the league over the last 5 seasons, batting .316/.364/.535 (140 OPS+) while playing above average/elite defense (his defense isn't quite godly anymore though).
5. Tulowitzki... ehh. He's played 291 games from 2012-15. His talent's obvious, but durability is a skill, and he simply lacks it.

With that being said, Goldschmidt isn't exactly far off assuming he lasts a full season, imo. His wRC+ has been a shade over 150 the past two seasons with solid defense and baserunning from a 1B. That roughly works out to a 6-6.5 fWAR season if he lasts the season. Now, if he takes it another step further, even if only for one year? It'd be really hard to not give him NL MVP. I don't think it makes a lot of sense to say Goldschmidt is an iron clad top 5 player- because he definitely has not been with guys like McCutchen, Trout, and a few others. He's in his prime years though, and his offense is easily top 5 right now.

 

[BrockForBroglio]

Plus Wong's Defense up the middle has been stellar.

 

[navamind]

Let's not forget Robinson Cano, either. A 2nd baseman that hits better than most 1B is a damn good player, even if Cano's defense is pretty meh. The power numbers were down last year, but he still batted .314/.382/.454 with a 136 wRC+ (19th among all MLB players).