PAC 12 Thread v6.0

[michaeljordan_fan]

If UMn loses Fleck, we could just hire out Offensive Coordinator, that's what Oregon always did, lol. Chump School.

Oh, wait, Oregon stopped hiring chump coordinators, when they hired Taggart, but lost him to FSU after just one year? lol And now they hired some guy with ONE Head Coaching job, where he led FIU to a glorious 27-47 record? WOW!!!

Yeah, we're supposed to believe Oregon is this top coaching job when with all of Uncle Phil's blood money to spend, they went with chump coordinators, or a loser coach, or a guy they couldn't keep more than a year?

Still waiting on you to link me to a Coaching Jobs ranking that has Minnesota above Oregon.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Seems UMn's success is crucial to the B1G's success.

Since UMn has been garbage for 60 years, sounds about right.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Accurate. I'm sure Fleck is desperate to GTFO of Minnesota. The only question is if a bigname program will take a chance on him while he has the stink of Minnesota on him.

Oregon was looking for a coach in 2017. Could have gotten Fleck, but instead chose Taggart and couldn't keep him and so then had to settle for a loser.

Instead UMn got Fleck, and has kept him.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Oregon was looking for a coach in 2017. Could have gotten Fleck, but instead chose Taggart and couldn't keep him and so then had to settle for a loser.

Instead UMn got Fleck, and has kept him.

What’s Flecks Rose Bowl record?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Accurate. I'm sure Fleck is desperate to GTFO of Minnesota. The only question is if a bigname program will take a chance on him while he has the stink of Minnesota on him.

Kelly bolted after only 4 years, Taggart only lasted at Oregon, what? ONE season? lol

Yet Fleck's still at Minnesota.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Since UMn has been garbage for 60 years, sounds about right.

PAC WAS successful, while Oregon sucked. Now Oregon's doing better and the PAC is sucking?

My guess is that the only reason Oregon's doing better now is BECAUSE of the PAC's decline.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Both Minnesota and Wisconsin will crack the Top 25 polls come next week. That will bring the B1G West to within 1 of the entire PAC since 2015, 16 to 17.

So you rip on the B1G West? lol B1G West is just as good at the entire PAC!!!

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

What’s Flecks Rose Bowl record?

How many Natl Titles has Oregon won?

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

How many Natl Titles has Oregon won?

So answer is zero. Neither coach has won a Natty. Ok- let’s take a look at the next layer down. Rose Bowl wins, Weeks ranked in top 10, recruiting in top 10. Let’s compare shall we?

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Kelly bolted after only 4 years, Taggart only lasted at Oregon, what? ONE season? lol

Yet Fleck's still at Minnesota.

Kelly went to 4 straight BCS bowls in his 4 years, then went to the NFL.

Fleck isn't going to the NFL, because he isn't desired by the NFL.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Kelly went to 4 straight BCS bowls in his 4 years, then went to the NFL.

Fleck isn't going to the NFL, because he isn't desired by the NFL.

You may have to explain to the little fella what a BCS bowl is.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

So answer is zero. Neither coach has won a Natty. Ok- let’s take a look at the next layer down. Rose Bowl wins, Weeks ranked in top 10, recruiting in top 10. Let’s compare shall we?

Dude, I'm talking about how each program is trending.

Did Oregon have a good stretch under Kelly and the first 2 seasons of Helfrich? Yeah, sure.

But they have only finished the season ranked ONCE in the past 6 seasons(16-21).

UMn those 6 seasons? 35-23. Oregon those 6 seasons? 36-23. Take out the covid bs season and it's 32-19 for UMn and 32-20 for Oregon.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Kelly went to 4 straight BCS bowls in his 4 years, then went to the NFL.

Fleck isn't going to the NFL, because he isn't desired by the NFL.

How did Kelly do in the NFL? Got fired from both jobs, didn't he?

 

[Duckboy33]

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Dude, I'm talking about how each program is trending.

Did Oregon have a good stretch under Kelly and the first 2 seasons of Helfrich? Yeah, sure.

But they have only finished the season ranked ONCE in the past 6 seasons(16-21).

UMn those 6 seasons? 35-23. Oregon those 6 seasons? 36-23. Take out the covid bs season and it's 32-19 for UMn and 32-20 for Oregon.

Oregon is trending up. Ya Oregon went through a dark period with the coaching shuffle. Throw last year out as 3 NFL players opted out of the season due to COVID yet they still won the PAC. Coach Cristobal has program headed in the right direction. Youngest team in the PAC and ranked #7 with 2 top 10 recruiting classes coming in.

Until Fleck wins a Rose Bowl or wins in Columbus ……. GTF out.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Oregon is trending up. Ya Oregon went through a dark period with the coaching shuffle. Throw last year out as 3 NFL players opted out of the season due to COVID yet they still won the PAC. Coach Cristobal has program headed in the right direction. Youngest team in the PAC and ranked #7 with 2 top 10 recruiting classes coming in.

Until Fleck wins a Rose Bowl or wins in Columbus ……. GTF out.

No, Oregon is NOT trending up. Recovering from some chaos? Sure. But yet somehow UMn can't use that excuse, can they? Only Oregon can use that excuse. And I see you using a Covid excuse for last season, as if only Oregon suffered from covid?

From what I'm seeing, Oregon's doing better this year and in 2019, simply because the rest of the PAC has been sucking so bad.


Arizona, less than a decade ago had a Top Ten ranked team, is now on what, a 15 game losing streak?

USC, a program with one of the best historical resumes in all of cfb, is struggling and looking for a new coach. Colorado, who fought for a Natl Title at one time is now considered one of the worst teams in the country, UCLA is struggling, Stanford is struggling, WSU is struggling, Washington is struggling, Cali sucks. Oregon St, who has never been any good is looking good vs the rest of their weak ass division.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

How did Oregon allow Colorado to score on them? Gophers kept them from scoring on them. I remember at least one of your Oregon fans claiming it's EASY to shut out Colorado.

And 29 points? WOW!!!

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

How did Oregon allow Colorado to score on them? Gophers kept them from scoring on them. I remember at least one of your Oregon fans claiming it's EASY to shut out Colorado.

And 29 points? WOW!!!

How many points did Minnesota score vs. Colorado?

Better yet, how many points did Minnesota lose to Ohio State by?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

How many points did Minnesota score vs. Colorado?

Better yet, how many points did Minnesota lose to Ohio State by?

Minnesota beat Colorado 30 - ZERO.

UMn didn't need to score more.

UMn ranks #4 in the country in TOP.

They don't NEED to run up the score on anyone.


And how many points did Oregon lose to Stanford by? Oregon is the ONLY Top Ten ranked team who've lost to an unranked team.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

How many points did Minnesota score vs. Colorado?

Better yet, how many points did Minnesota lose to Ohio State by?

Minnesota ranks #15 in the country in Rushing offense and #11 in Total Defense. Not bad after losing it's starting RB and it's #1 back up RB as well. Rush heavy teams with good defenses don't often run up the score on teams.