The problem with the PAC Network can be summed up pretty easily. I live on the West Coast and have to pay to get the PAC Network, but get the SEC Network for free.
squeaking out 3 point and 6 point wins isn't dominating
Anyone trying to claim USC didn't dominate the PAC during the Carroll years is a buffoon.
did anyone ever claim them to be?So when Oregon went to their NC’s they weren’t a dominant team?
I understand Oly's point, to a point.
What I mean is, during those years, USC was dominant. The record speaks for itself. But, during those years, if they were to lose a game, or even have a close call, it was against a PAC team.
While USC was going 52-7 in the PAC, they were 33-2 OOC (including bowl games. It's why I've always stuck up for other PAC teams when fans from other conferences try to claim the PAC was USC and no one else.
So, from that perspective, USC wasn't as dominant as a lot of folks say/remember. But, as I pointed out earlier, the point is to win and when you win at that clip, that's pretty dominant.
So, from that perspective, USC wasn't as dominant as a lot of folks say/remember. But, as I pointed out earlier, the point is to win and when you win at that clip, that's pretty dominant.
Sorry but when you win the conference every year from 2002 to 2008 thats called dominating. Someone winning a game or some games being close doesn't erase that. Not losing a game is called perfection. These are 18-22 year old kids and you will get close games and you might drop one. Clemson had a close game against Syracuse. Doesn't mean they didn't have a dominant season. USC didn't lose a PAC game for a 27 game stretch. That part was perfection wrapped in domination.in this sense yes.
like i said I never said they weren't good. never said they werent the best.
I just dont see 2 losses and squeaking out 3 wins in conference is dominant. thats trouble in over half the conference games played.
co champing it almost half the timeSorry but when you win the conference every year from 2002 to 2008 thats called dominating. Someone winning a game or some games being close doesn't erase that. Not losing a game is called perfection. These are 18-22 year old kids and you will get close games and you might drop one. Clemson had a close game against Syracuse. Doesn't mean they didn't have a dominant season. USC didn't lose a PAC game for a 27 game stretch. That part was perfection wrapped in domination.
but in a 9 game conference schedule losing 2 and and winning 3 by a score or less doesnt mean domination either.Then we are on the same page. I don’t think dominant means you beat everyone 56-0.
Not only that. This takes me back when the PAC had a leg to stand on. The climate swing by state or school is more massive in the PAC than any other conference. You could play in the high altitude of Boulder one week, then the next week play in the blazing heat of Tempe. You have wet conditions in Seattle, Eugene, Corvallis and potential snow and cold in Pullman & Salt Lake. Obviously the California schools are very mild. But still vastly different climates.I still say you guys dominated. But regardless of what every national media said the Pac 12, then 10, is always going to be the hardest conference to “dominate”. Every single style of offense except the old school wishbone and triple option is in the conference. As well as varying defenses, it’s just hard to make a completely different game plan every week. And with Pete he seems to just stick to the same one and that can bite you from time to time. It’s like when the Rams were essentially the now Oregon State Beavers, they always gave the Seahawks fits.
I loved him in Saved By The BellBest RB in the PAC 12 is ZACK MOSS prove me wrong!